REFLECTOR: Cookout
Dan Schindler
danpilot91 at gmail.com
Sun Jun 10 15:07:54 CDT 2012
I will have a rental car and I am willing to help go pickup items. Just let me know. Hope there is some interest, always a good time
Thank you,
Dan Schindler
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> My last post inquiring as to who would be willing to help set up this year's Velocity Cookout was met with cricket noises. Not a single person responded.
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> Andy Millin did a yeoman's job of hosting the event in years past with help from others including the Ferrells. Both are now flying into the show and cannot take the lead this year. In particular, they cannot bring grills, canopies, tables and the other large items needed for the type of event we've been having.
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> We always have a good turnout for the event and everyone seems to really enjoy it. However, no one seems to be interested enough to pitch in to make it happen this year. I hope that's not really the case. The factory has promised to offer support and Brett has raised some money for the event with sales of his Velocity calendar. We still need some help from folks who are not flying in, or at least those who will have a car at the show and would be willing to promote grills, tables and the like. Without that sort of support, we won't be able to have the same type of event. If that's the case, we could try to hold the event at a restaurant, such as Robin's.
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> What do folks who plan to attend the show think? Is there really no interest in holding a Velocity cookout or dinner this year?
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> Mark
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>> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 09:39:16 -0500
>> From: Don Johnston <numa at comcast.net>
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>> Engine cowling. Oil door and cleaning up the air outlets.
>>
>> -Don
>> XL-RG
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>> From: Reiff Lorenz <Reiff at Lorenz.com>
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>> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 10:00:45 -0400
>> Subject: REFLECTOR: What are you working on?
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>> The Reflector has been quiet this week. Hopefully that means that everyone
>> is busy flying or building.
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>> I'd love to hear what the Velocity community is working on. If your bird is
>> in the air tell us where you're flying.
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>> I've been spending my time on the wings; aileron torque tubes, wiring for
>> nav/pos/strobe lights, and final fitting of the rudders. I'm trying to
>> complete all the wing tasks that can be done without them attached to the
>> fuselage.
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>> *Reiff Lorenz, Dayton, OH*
>> Velocity XL-RG, 33% complete
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>> From: Peter Braswell <peter.braswell at gmail.com>
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>> Hey Reiff,
>>
>> I recently got the strakes closed off which of course is followed by hours
>> of filling and sanding. This past week, I was able to get the strake
>> baggage area bulkheads installed and glassed in, wings cut loose and the
>> leading edge filled and taped on both sides.
>>
>> I'm real close to taking the wings off and doing the finish work on the
>> strakes, including the pressure check of the tanks then the preverbal
>> flip-over to do stuff to the bottom of the plane.
>>
>> I'm taking a 5 day break from building to finish off my IFR rating with PIC
>> starting Friday. With any luck, this time next week I'll have my
>> instrument ticket, then it's back to the salt mines working on the plane. :)
>>
>> Peter
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>> On Wed, Jun 6, 2012 at 10:00 AM, Reiff Lorenz <Reiff at lorenz.com> wrote:
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>>> The Reflector has been quiet this week. Hopefully that means that everyone
>>> is busy flying or building.****
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>>> ** **
>>>
>>> I'd love to hear what the Velocity community is working on. If your bird
>>> is in the air tell us where you're flying.****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> I've been spending my time on the wings; aileron torque tubes, wiring for
>>> nav/pos/strobe lights, and final fitting of the rudders. I'm trying to
>>> complete all the wing tasks that can be done without them attached to the
>>> fuselage.****
>>>
>>> ** **
>>>
>>> *Reiff Lorenz, Dayton, OH*
>>>
>>> Velocity XL-RG, 33% complete****
>>>
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>> From: Gattenby <gattenby at tulsaconnect.com>
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>> Still sanding and filling and sanding and. How could a wing look so smooth when I put the triax on be so wavy when I sand the micro off??
>>
>> Noel
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>> On Jun 6, 2012, at 9:39 AM, Don Johnston <numa at comcast.net> wrote:
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>>> Engine cowling. Oil door and cleaning up the air outlets.
>>>
>>> -Don
>>> XL-RG
>>>
>>> From: Reiff Lorenz <Reiff at Lorenz.com>
>>> To: "reflector at tvbf.org" <reflector at tvbf.org>
>>> Cc:
>>> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 10:00:45 -0400
>>> Subject: REFLECTOR: What are you working on?
>>>
>>>
>>> The Reflector has been quiet this week. Hopefully that means that everyone is busy flying or building.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I'd love to hear what the Velocity community is working on. If your bird is in the air tell us where you're flying.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I've been spending my time on the wings; aileron torque tubes, wiring for nav/pos/strobe lights, and final fitting of the rudders. I'm trying to complete all the wing tasks that can be done without them attached to the fuselage.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Reiff Lorenz, Dayton, OH
>>>
>>> Velocity XL-RG, 33% complete
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> From: John Dibble <aminetech at bluefrog.com>
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> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: First flight
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> Hmmm. With the coolers in parallel, how do you know where the oil is
> going? Seems like it will take the path of least resistance. Maybe one
> cooler isn't doing much?
>
> John
>
> On 6/10/2012 8:34 AM, Chris Barber wrote:
>>
>> I have two oil coolers already. The standard cooler mounted under the
>> aircraft laid flat with the radiator to make one large unit and fed
>> with a large ram air scoop on the bottom of the cowl. I also have a
>> second oil cooler (standard aircraft cooler as provided by Velocity)
>> in the nose per planes plumbed in parallel. It was originally plumbed
>> in series but since it has smaller fittings, it was causing a pressure
>> issue and oil would seep out from around my oil filter.
>>
>> I got some pondering to do.
>>
>> I was just looking at the distorted video I took while in the pattern
>> on downwind. It is only a few seconds long. Very hard to see some of
>> the info. It does show my rpm got up to 6870 rpm but the map on
>> the RWS monitor was only indicating 24.7. (?) I am running a spring
>> in the waste gate at 1.5 lbs. Coolant temps were 187 degrees while oil
>> was 224 degrees. GPS speed showed 128 kts per the Dynon.
>>
>> The IVO in-flight adjustable prop was at full fine. The IVO pith range
>> is 45 - 105 and IIRC it is 68 inches.
>>
>> Chris
>>
>> *From:* reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] on
>> behalf of John Dibble [aminetech at bluefrog.com]
>> *Sent:* Sunday, June 10, 2012 7:27 AM
>> *To:* Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
>> *Subject:* Re: REFLECTOR: First flight
>>
>> I second that for the oil cooler. Are you using the standard oil
>> cooler? I think a problem is that the standard oil cooler is intended
>> for engines in the 180-200 hp range and for engines with more hp, a
>> larger cooler is needed. It doesn't take much increase in cooler size
>> to make a big difference in cooling, so a larger cooler (1" taller)
>> may be all you need and simpler than adding a second.
>>
>> John
>>
>> On 6/9/2012 8:28 PM, Al Gietzen wrote:
>>> Way to go Chris!! That is a life-changing milestone. Congratulations!
>>> Reminiscent of 1st flight with my plane - oil temp hit 225 and ended
>>> the flight with one turn around the patch. As you said; not critical,
>>> but you don't want to run a rotary very long above that temp. For
>>> me it took some work on the scoop; and eventually a second oil cooler
>>> to keep things in the comfort zone on a hot day. You might consider
>>> an auxiliary oil/coolant heat exchanger.
>>> Now that you are a "real" pilot, get out there at 0700 when air temp
>>> is below 80 and maybe you can fly long enough to enjoy it.
>>> Al
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> *From:* reflector-bounces at tvbf.org
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>>> [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] *On Behalf Of *Chris Barber
>>> *Sent:* Saturday, June 09, 2012 9:50 AM
>>> *To:* REFLECTOR
>>> *Subject:* REFLECTOR: First flight
>>>
>>> Cleared to take active and hold. Taxied out. Lined up castering
>>> nose wheel down center stripe. Cleared to take off. Added power
>>> and engine smoothly ran up. Airspeed coming in. 30 kts...50 kts
>>> ....60 kts, approximate rotation speed. Lots of runway (9000
>>> ft).....hold it....70 kts....72 kts... Slight pull on the
>>> yoke....AIRBORNE!!! Leaped into ground effect. Screw this, pulled
>>> back on yoke and I am climbing. Jiggled the yoke a bit to
>>> verify control authority.
>>>
>>> Climbed to about 400 feet and turned right pattern to crosswind.
>>> The Dynon altitude and airspeed seem to be working. That's
>>> reassuring. Pattern altitude is only 600 feet and I was there
>>> already as I turned to downwind. Leveled off and noticed the
>>> clouds were lower than reported and appeared on the ground. Also,
>>> noticed coolant temps had dropped to 190....but oil temps were
>>> flashing at me and had reached 225 (synthetic Royal Purple).
>>> Damn. Ok. Fly the airplane, the oil is not at not a critical
>>> level. , but let's just finish the pattern and land. I grabbed my
>>> phone while on downwind and attempted to record some data but
>>> while I can hear the engine the video is awful....uh, in my
>>> defense, I was a bit distracted and way more concerned with
>>> flying. I called the tower and informed them I was coming in. I
>>> think they were looking out for me since as I turned to base I
>>> noticed the fire department staged just off the runways threshold
>>>
>>> I noted I was a bit far out on down wind so I stared easing over
>>> to turn base. Wow. I really overshot it as I blew by the runway
>>> and had to use full right rudder to get back to the runway. I
>>> wish I had had more rudder. In hindsight I think I was not using
>>> much aileron as I was cognoscente that I had no idea of stall
>>> characteristics so I did not yet wish too strep a turn. I was
>>> able to get over the runway and dump some altitude as I got over
>>> the numbers and pulled power. Crap, I am fast. I am lined up and
>>> right on the numbers but at 95 kts. I come and touchdown and
>>> bounced. Pulled power to idles and settled down easily but fast
>>> at 90 and rolled out and exited at Delta. The tower was clearing
>>> me back to the city hangars as I was exiting the active. I taxi
>>> back and noticed the oil temps had decreased but I don't recall
>>> how much, just noticed they were lower.
>>>
>>> I got back to my hangar and popped the door and shut her down.
>>> The engine went silent without any hissing or gushing.
>>>
>>> I called my mom.
>>>
>>> I am mowing informing the world.
>>>
>>> I did a walk around and did not see anything missing. I am about
>>> to pull the cowl and check things out.
>>>
>>> I did notice I did not develop a slight hand shaking untill after
>>> I landed and exited the aircraft. ;-) Hey, how about that, it
>>> really is an aircraft now. Ten years to the day following delivery.
>>>
>>> Thank you for your support.
>>>
>>> Christopher Barber, JD
>>> Houston, Ellington Field (EFD)
>>> Velocity N17010
>>> Turbo Rotary 13b
>>> RWS Re-drive and engine computers
>>> Dynon Skyview
>>> Mistral intake
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone 4
>>>
>>>
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