REFLECTOR: aileron binding

[Brett Ferrell]

Nick,


Do you have a part number?  Is it a direct 1-for-1 replacement?  If so, I'd
like to capture it on the Wiki.

Brett


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  From: Jones Nick
  To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
  Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: aileron binding
  Sent: 12 Jul '12 13:16


Reiff,


I too thought there was too much friction and slop on the ailerons. I
talked to Teleflex controls about the problem. They told me about their
TFXtreame cable design that eliminates most of the slop and decrease the
friction.  I installed the TFXextreme cables and the friction was reduced
significantly and very little slop. I haven’t flown the cables yet but I
can tell the difference between the TFX cable from the original cables.


[LINK:
http://www.teleflexmarine.com/products/controls-and-cables/control-cables-and-accessories/tfxtreme-cables/]
http://www.teleflexmarine.com/products/controls-and-cables/control-cables-and-accessories/tfxtreme-cables/


Best regards,


Nick and Connie Jones

Velocity XL-RG

N10CN

99% done 90% to go


FROM: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] ON
BEHALF OF Reiff Lorenz
SENT: Thursday, July 12, 2012 1:25 PM
TO: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
SUBJECT: Re: REFLECTOR: aileron binding


Don,


Here's a collection of comments, impressions, and stories about ailerons
that I've collected over the past 3 years. Some of these are even true. I
don't pretend to be an expert, but I'll put this out for anyone that wants
it:


1.       Velocity ailerons frequently feel stiff. Once the engine is
running, the vibration eliminates that issue. (I'm not claiming that this
is an acceptable solution, just that I've heard it from many builders.)

2.       Some have improved the situation with bearings, universal joints,
and push-pull cable lubrication.

3.       The Rocket Racing League wanted to eliminate the stiffness (since
they flew half of the time with the engine off) so they replaced the
push-pull cables with a series of pushrods and bellcranks.

4.       When I was in Sebastian this winter, Velocity was building the
twin. They were considering using "a higher grade" of push-pull cable to
reduce friction and slop.


Hope this helps.


REIFF LORENZ, DAYTON, OH

Velocity XL-RG, 34% complete

Currently working on: Aeroquip brake lines


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[mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] ON BEHALF OF Don Johnston
SENT: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 6:06 PM
TO: [LINK: mailto:reflector at tvbf.org] reflector at tvbf.org
SUBJECT: REFLECTOR: aileron binding


It's not the aileron. It's something in the cable. With no cable attached
the aileron moves with ZERO friction. But once the cable is attached, it's
sticky.

I'm hoping that I'm creating a problem where none exists. When I had both
wings on, Malcolm said the stick was easier to move than most others. So
perhaps the weight of the other aileron cancels out some of the cable
friction.

-Don

From: John Tvedte <[LINK: mailto:johnt at comp-sol.com] johnt at comp-sol.com>
To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list <[LINK:
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Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 16:29:54 -0500
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Aileron binding?

Don,


With the Aileron torque tube travelling through an arc – a spherical
bearing will help with binding.  In my case, I’m going ‘old school’ (aka
Long EZ/Cozy) – and using a universal joint at the connection between the
torque tube and the aileron, in conjunction with the spherical bearing at
the wing root.  Parts are available off the shelf from Cozy Girls, and
Infinity Aerospace.  Let me know if you’d like part #’s, etc.


John
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