REFLECTOR: Reflector Digest, Vol 88, Issue 23 Velocity BBQ RSVP
Mark Riley
the_rileys1 at verizon.net
Wed Jul 11 18:26:08 CDT 2012
Brett:
I thought I RSVP'd, but must have done it wrong.Add the whole Riley clan- Mark, Nancy, Katie and Sean. See you there!
Mark
On Jul 11, 2012, at 8:07 AM, reflector-request at tvbf.org wrote:
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> 1. Re: BBQ Update! Please Read!! (nmflyer1 at aol.com)
> 2. A/C (was Re: GRT Displays overheating - Anyone else see
> this?) (Lawrence Epstein)
> 3. Re: another check (Jones Nick)
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> Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 01:02:38 -0400 (EDT)
> From: nmflyer1 at aol.com
> To: reflector at velocityxl.com, reflector at tvbf.org
> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: BBQ Update! Please Read!!
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> not sure what the lines through the names mean, but Misty and myself will be there. :)
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> Kurt Winker
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Brett Ferrell <reflector at velocityxl.com>
> To: reflector <reflector at tvbf.org>
> Sent: Tue, Jul 10, 2012 7:31 pm
> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: BBQ Update! Please Read!!
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> Here's the current list:
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> 2012 Velocity BBQ Reservations
> John Abraham 5 Sebastian FL XLRG
> Paul Barfknecht 1 unknown RI SFG
> Jerry Brainard 2 Lebanon OH XLRG ! ;
> Richard Cano 3 Galveston TX XLRG
> Brett Ferrell 2 Cincinnati OH XLFG
> bARRY Gibbons 0 Rosamond CA XLRG
> Carl Hoffman 2 Knoxville TN &nb! sp; SRG
> Bob Huntingford 1 Edmonton, CA OH XLFG
> Bob Jackson 1 Windermere FL XLRG
> Don Johnston 2 Barrington IL XLRG
> Darrell & nbsp; Kufalk 2 ! ; Waukesha WI SFG
> Grover McNair 2 Raleigh NC SFG
> Terry Miles 1 Chicago IL XLRG
> Andy Millin 2 Plainwell MI XLFG
> Ken Mishler 1 Vero Beach FL XLRG
> Ron Needham 4 Darien IL SFG
> Jack Prock 1 Auburn CA XLRG
> Tim Rhodenbaugh 2 Oxford OH XLRG &! nbsp;
> Richard Ring 2 Pratt KS SRG
> Dan Schindler 4 Forney TX SRG
> Kurt Winker 2 Los Lunas NM SFG
> Brooke Wolf 1 Vonore &! nbsp; TN XLRG
> Total Confirmed Attendence = 43
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> From: Lawrence Epstein <ljepstein at hotmail.com>
> To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list <reflector at tvbf.org>
> Subject: REFLECTOR: A/C (was Re: GRT Displays overheating - Anyone
> else see this?)
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> Can you give specs/cost info on your A/C (the Seamech website is light on details).
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> Larry E.
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> On Jul 9, 2012, at 9:51 AM, Chris Barber <cbarber at texasattorney.net> wrote:
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>> Interesting you mention the A/C Mark. My first three flights were without A/C....well, on the third I turned it on while taxiing back to the hangar. The guy who supplied me with the A/C (owner of SeaMech Environmental Systems...provider of A/C to Beechcraft, Cirrus, Cessna) is wanting me to use the A/C now that I think I have my cooling under control and I think I will on my next flight. The certified models he installs are rated for use at takeoff. I am still just flying around the airport.
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>> It is ridiculously hot...but of course it is Houston in July...what would I expect. As I have stated, if I am gonna fly in the heat, I need to test in the heat.
>>
>> Chris Barber
>> Phase One Testing
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>> From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] on behalf of Mark Magee [edjonesbrady at gmail.com]
>> Sent: Sunday, July 08, 2012 10:45 PM
>> To: Brett Ferrell; Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
>> Cc: reflector
>> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: GRT Displays overheating - Anyone else see this?
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>> Hi Brett,
>> You guys all laughed at me and my longings toward cabin A/C... We closed out that thread. I agree with GRT on the vents except I'd consider some 12V pc power supply fans, one port one starboard, blowing up on the windscreen. This would double as winter defogger/deicer. With the doors open until after run-up you should be getting a fresh flow of 100F air on a hotter day. If you can get aloft into cooler air I'd think you'd have a shot at keeping the Glass out of over temp. Pretty simple fix, two holesaw cuts on your glare shield and mount the fans and grab 12V from same circuit powering the GRT's: those fans pull very little power.
>> Frankly I'd even consider laying a Blue Ice pack or two below my Glass displays secured somehow for summer work until this confounded La Nina weather pattern subsides.
>> Or install A/C: I'm game!
>> My $.02 USD.
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>> Mark B. Magee
>> N34XL
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>> On Jul 8, 2012, at 9:36 PM, "Brett Ferrell" <reflector at velocityxl.com> wrote:
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>>> We've had quite a string of hot weather here in SW Ohio as of late, and on the last couple of flights we've had issues with our GRT HX screens overheating and shutting down in flight. We've got backup dial gauges, but needless to say, it's disappointing when you lose the fancy readouts, and though we've been planning to fly to Airventure we will likely won't if we can't quickly find a solution to the issue. Has anyone else seen this behavior? If so, how did you resolve it?
>>>
>>> GRT tell me that the screens should run 'about 30 degrees' above ambient. They will shut down at 160 F, and you can see the internal temperature by going to setup menu (Display Maint, Analog Input page). It's been right at 100 F here for the last few days, and I can confirm that on the ground they warm right up to 130. We went around the pattern and in less than two passes they were shutting down! I went to the setup page, and sure enough, they were reporting in the mid 150s.
>>>
>>> GRT believes that if I add vents to my glaresheild the issue will resolve itself, but I have already tried a large (68 cfm) computer fan aimed at the back of the displays, which only relieved about 1 degree F of temperature, and tried routing cooling air from the nose fresh air vent to the back of the displays to no effect (the screens still shutdown in flight). I believe my situation is unique because I mounted a second oil cooler in the nose for winter recirculating air usage (rather than cold outside air), and have checked this cooler is, in fact, getting quite hot. On my last flight it was over 200 F even though the one on the nose NACA was below 180, so I think this cooler is just filling the nose area with hot air. Net, I'm going to pull that cooler, and at some point put vents in the glaresheild, but that's a fair amount of effort the way I have it mounted.
>>>
>>> Brett
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> Date: Wed, 11 Jul 2012 14:07:12 +0200
> From: Jones Nick <nick.jones at volvo.com>
> To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list <reflector at tvbf.org>
> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: another check
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> Nice looking work. You can never have enough light when painting.
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> Best regards,
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> Nick and Connie Jones
> Velocity XL-RG
> N10CN
> 99% done 90% to go
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> From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] On Behalf Of nmflyer1 at aol.com
> Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 12:58 AM
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> Canard & elevators painted.
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> Kurt
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