REFLECTOR: Hope

Jones Nick nick.jones at volvo.com
Wed Jul 11 12:35:55 CDT 2012


Terry,

Thanks for the information. That's sort of what I have been hearing from most folks about not finishing it until the test hours are flown off. I also don't want a show plane, I want to use it. I helped a friend of mine built a Lancair IV-P that won best workmanship at SNF in 2009 but it was so heavy from the paint and an AC system that it was a 2 place airplane when fueled. The irony is the plane suffered a crankshaft failure and he had to land on a beach and the tide got the airplane before he could get it off the beach. All that time and work wasted making everything look perfect. 

I am using WLS epoxy primer on my V. The information from them its compatible with anything and if you don't sand it until you are ready for a topcoat that it is impervious to fuel and oils. It's expensive but it fills pinholes big enough to bury a dead body. Anyway, we used it on the IV-P and it worked well. The clear coat system looks great but I'm not sure I want to pay the weight penalty. I believe the philosophy that if you throw it up in the air and it comes down, it doesn't belong on an airplane.

Best regards,

Nick and Connie Jones
Velocity XL-RG
N10CN
99% done 90% to go
-----Original Message-----
From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] On Behalf Of Terrence Miles
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 10:59 AM
To: 'Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list'
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Hope

Nick and Connie,
I applied a two part Akzo Nobel primer on mine.  Only later did I read thru
all the literature that said (in major part) that it had to be top coated
within a day or two.  It was months.  Then the final top coating was a
Dupont auto color-then-clear coat system that talked a lot about their own
primer products.  So before top coating, I scratched up my primer coat some,
then re-primed w/ another primer that was recommended and the Dupont top
coats.  It chips on me.  The Dupont stuff chips off and exposes the 2nd
primer product.  This happens mostly at the door jams and the mating
surfaces of fuselage to engine cowl halves.  I guess the lesson is stay with
one product line.  

I also choose to take the paint tasks to the top coatings prior to test
flight, only because I had the time an opportunity then.  I did put a few
tool and belt buckle etc dings in my own paint job during the test flight
period and a shake out period after that in the next 40 hours when I found
more little stuff to correct.  

I am also of the school of "it is an airplane" and is supposed to look like
it is getting used, that not to say I am not envious of the true beauty
queens in the fleet.   Good luck with the choices before you.
Terry

-----Original Message-----
From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] On
Behalf Of Jones Nick
Sent: Wednesday, July 11, 2012 7:10 AM
To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Hope

David,

Is your plane in primer? What kind of primer did you use? I would like to
know if you have any trouble painting after flying in primer. That's my plan
also.

Best regards,

Nick and Connie Jones
Velocity XL-RG
N10CN
99% done 90% to go
-----Original Message-----
From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] On
Behalf Of David Ullman
Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2012 10:41 PM
To: reflector at tvbf.org
Subject: REFLECTOR: Hope

I wont be able to make Osh this year.  Just no money and time.  

However, to give encouragement to those still building, I am 35 hours into
my 40 hours for the FAA (Oh, that's where the money is going!!).  Everything
is working well and my piloting skills are getting better.  I can land in
less than 2000 ft with a good cross wind.  I haven't even scared myself real
bad, yet.   

Adding the Dynon autopilot was a really good decision as it works very well.
The only technical thing left to do is to realign the gear so it tracks
better and add the wheel pants.  I will finish the interior and paint it
over the winter when the flying is poor. 

I will write up the performance when I get the wheel pants on and post it
here.

Thanks to all who helped with advice and postings.

David Ullman
N444DX
President EAA 292
541-754-3609
david at davidullman.com

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