REFLECTOR: Cabin Heat

Ruben Creus ruben at vainneg.com
Mon Jan 16 00:02:23 CST 2012


Jeff, 

 

Interesting. I guess that if the air moves too fast then there is not time
for it to absorb heat. You said you slowed down with the restrictor plate.
Where did you place the restrictor plate? What's it shape?

 

Ruben

 

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From: Jeff Howell [mailto:jeffreyhowell at hotmail.com] 
Sent: Sunday, January 15, 2012 8:39 PM
To: reflector at tvbf.org
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Cabin Heat

 

It is very possible to take 0 deg air and worm it up into the 90s or 100s.
It is as simple as how fast is the air flowing through the heat exchanger.
At NASA we do lots of experiments that have to do with air flow and heat
exchangers. The problem my velo had was the air was flowing to fast though
the exchanger thus causing the air NOT to be saturated with heat. I then
slowed down the air flow to about half the exhaust size and wala I had hot
air and lower temps??? I know it sounds weird but on mine it worked. On the
same day I flew for an hour it was 95deg out side my oil temp was 205....
After landing I put the restrictor plate in an flew again....The temp went
from 205 down to 185..... I then left the restriction in and have flown when
it is below freezing at 2550ft in elev. and the cabin stays worm especially
my feet. Both my heaters (the exhaust muff and the front naca) keep the
plane at a comfortable temp. sometimes even hot. They both blow quite a bit
of air and I believe there is plenty of ventilation through the gaps in the
retract system for the air to escape...Jeff 

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From: bill.stockman at daytonaero.com
To: reflector at tvbf.org
Date: Fri, 13 Jan 2012 09:01:04 -0600
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Cabin Heat

If you are bringing in outside air that cold, there is no chance in  &%$%
that is will heat the air up.    The stock heater set up works great if you
are taking outside air and raising it 20-30 degrees.    Most of us in the
"North" where we fly at -10F during the winter have changed to oil coolers
in the cabin and we recirculate cabin air -not outside air-- through the oil
coolers.  Works great and on cold days keeps the cabin around 60-70.   Oil
cooler works best up front, but also can work as flat heat exchangers under
seats or in the rear of the cabin.     My plane still exits air out the back
of the cabin so I used the oil cooler in the nose.     It won't burn your
feet like some of the Piper muff heaters, but you also won't die from carbon
monoxide poisoning.

 

Bill Stockman

Senior Associate

Dayton Aerospace, Inc.

 

937.426.4300  Office

937.369.4799  Cell

bill.stockman at daytonaero.com

www.daytonaero.com

 

From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] On
Behalf Of Ruben Creus
Sent: Thursday, January 12, 2012 9:36 PM
To: reflector at tvbf.org
Subject: REFLECTOR: Cabin Heat

 

Hi all,

 

When I am flying below 0 Celsius outside temperature, the oil cooler seems
to not heat enough the air coming into the cabin. The other day at -12C
outside it was very chill in the cabin. I heard some of you partially cover
the cooler, but not sure if the can be risky if covered too much. Has any
one had any experience trying to get more cabin heat?

 

Ruben

 


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