REFLECTOR: Insurance advice needed

Fri Aug 3 15:33:34 CDT 2012

I did the NY VFR corridor a couple of times, day time and night time, and
fully recommend it!!!  With the new procedures and altitudes it is very safe
and fun. Remember that for you fly the corridor you need to take the FAA
safety online course, pass the quiz, and print out the card and carry with
you while in the air, otherwise if something happens and if you do not have
the piece of paper with you, you could get in trouble.

Ruben G. Creus

* +1.571.215.0025

*  <mailto:ruben at vainneg.com> ruben at vainneg.com

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From: Geoff Gerhardt [mailto:geoff.gerhardt at gmail.com] 
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 3:40 PM
To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Insurance advice needed

All,

Thanks for your responses.  I have taken your collective advice and have
booked an Arrow for Saturday and Sunday morning.  I'll knock out 5hrs in a
couple cross countries - might even head for the NY VFR corridor, I haven't
done that yet (or should I save that flight for the Velocity...?).  It will
also be good to fly the pattern I'll be taking on the first flight and
identify potential emergency landing sites (unfortunately, there's not too
much of those here in well forested/populated MA).

Geoff

On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:45 AM, Scott Derrick <scott at tnstaafl.net> wrote:

They are worried that you will kill a passenger,put yourself in the hospital
or run into somebody's house.  

5 hours in an Arrow or 210 or Bonanza would be great practice.  they all,
including the V have similar approach numbers.  Make no flap landings.    

If 5 hours in an Arrow would make your performance in a V any worse, you
don't have nearly enough time under your belt and should consider hiring a
transition trainer for your first 10 or so hours in the V.

Scott

-------- Original Message --------
Subject: REFLECTOR: Insurance advice needed

From: Geoff Gerhardt  <mailto:geoff.gerhardt at gmail.com>
<geoff.gerhardt at gmail.com>
To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list  <mailto:reflector at tvbf.org>
<reflector at tvbf.org>

Date: 07/31/2012 05:18 PM

Guys, 

I have my airworthiness inspection schedule for next week, got my complex
endorsement then went down to Velocity a few weeks ago for transition
training (went great, John's a great instructor), so first flight is in
sight.  I had some bad news from my Avemco rep.  I've had builders insurance
with them for awhile and had talked to them last week about transitioning to
flight insurance, liability only.  Fine, they said, everything was in order
after I relayed all my info.  But, today I got a call and my rep said I need
another 5hrs in retract time before they'll insure me.  Just go out in an
Arrow for 5hrs, he says, and you'll be good.

A couple things - no, 5hrs in an Arrow after coming off Velocity transition
training and I'll be worse.  It took about 5 landings to get out slow
landing, aileron control on final mode and into 85kt final, all rudders.
Five hours in an Arrow right before my first flight would not be a good
idea.  Secondly, why do they care about my time in a retract for liability
insurance?  Landing wheels up doesn't do a lot of damage to the runway.
Sorry, just venting.

Anyway, I'm considering my options now.  Fly without insurance for the first
5hrs?  Does anyone know any other insurance companies for low-time retract
pilots (I have 5hrs retract time)?

Geoff

173RG

http://thegerhardts.com/velocity

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