REFLECTOR: Insurance advice needed

[Jones Nick]

Having flow the NY VFR corridor several times, take some extra eyes. This time of the year is worse than the fisk arrival at OSH because there isn't any organization. Get briefed on the new radio calls before you go. It's fun and challenging and views are great. I would fly it in the Arrow since it's slower and will get you in trouble slower. The view over the wing isn't as good though.

Best regards,

Nick and Connie Jones
Velocity XL-RG
N10CN
99% done 90% to go

From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] On Behalf Of Geoff Gerhardt
Sent: Friday, August 03, 2012 3:40 PM
To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Insurance advice needed

All,

Thanks for your responses.  I have taken your collective advice and have booked an Arrow for Saturday and Sunday morning.  I'll knock out 5hrs in a couple cross countries - might even head for the NY VFR corridor, I haven't done that yet (or should I save that flight for the Velocity...?).  It will also be good to fly the pattern I'll be taking on the first flight and identify potential emergency landing sites (unfortunately, there's not too much of those here in well forested/populated MA).

Geoff
On Wed, Aug 1, 2012 at 10:45 AM, Scott Derrick <scott at tnstaafl.net<mailto:scott at tnstaafl.net>> wrote:
They are worried that you will kill a passenger,put yourself in the hospital or run into somebody's house.

5 hours in an Arrow or 210 or Bonanza would be great practice.  they all, including the V have similar approach numbers.  Make no flap landings.

If 5 hours in an Arrow would make your performance in a V any worse, you don't have nearly enough time under your belt and should consider hiring a transition trainer for your first 10 or so hours in the V.

Scott
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Subject: REFLECTOR: Insurance advice needed
From: Geoff Gerhardt <geoff.gerhardt at gmail.com><mailto:geoff.gerhardt at gmail.com>
To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list <reflector at tvbf.org><mailto:reflector at tvbf.org>
Date: 07/31/2012 05:18 PM
Guys,

I have my airworthiness inspection schedule for next week, got my complex endorsement then went down to Velocity a few weeks ago for transition training (went great, John's a great instructor), so first flight is in sight.  I had some bad news from my Avemco rep.  I've had builders insurance with them for awhile and had talked to them last week about transitioning to flight insurance, liability only.  Fine, they said, everything was in order after I relayed all my info.  But, today I got a call and my rep said I need another 5hrs in retract time before they'll insure me.  Just go out in an Arrow for 5hrs, he says, and you'll be good.

A couple things - no, 5hrs in an Arrow after coming off Velocity transition training and I'll be worse.  It took about 5 landings to get out slow landing, aileron control on final mode and into 85kt final, all rudders.  Five hours in an Arrow right before my first flight would not be a good idea.  Secondly, why do they care about my time in a retract for liability insurance?  Landing wheels up doesn't do a lot of damage to the runway.  Sorry, just venting.

Anyway, I'm considering my options now.  Fly without insurance for the first 5hrs?  Does anyone know any other insurance companies for low-time retract pilots (I have 5hrs retract time)?

Geoff
173RG
http://thegerhardts.com/velocity



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