REFLECTOR: Insurance advice needed

[Laurence Coen]

MessageChartis have dropped AUA as a broker.

Larry Coen
N136LC


From: Al Gietzen 
Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 7:29 PM
To: geoff.gerhardt at gmail.com ; 'Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list' 
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Insurance advice needed


Geoff;

Upon further reflection; AUA will likely write insurance through Chartis Ins.; and they will likely have the same requirement.  Options include:

Brian's suggestion ( seems like a good one).
Do 5 hrs in a Mooney; flaps up landing,
See if John will give you 5 more hours in the Velocity.

Al
  -----Original Message-----
  From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] On Behalf Of Geoff Gerhardt
  Sent: Tuesday, July 31, 2012 4:18 PM
  To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
  Subject: REFLECTOR: Insurance advice needed


  Guys, 


  I have my airworthiness inspection schedule for next week, got my complex endorsement then went down to Velocity a few weeks ago for transition training (went great, John's a great instructor), so first flight is in sight.  I had some bad news from my Avemco rep.  I've had builders insurance with them for awhile and had talked to them last week about transitioning to flight insurance, liability only.  Fine, they said, everything was in order after I relayed all my info.  But, today I got a call and my rep said I need another 5hrs in retract time before they'll insure me.  Just go out in an Arrow for 5hrs, he says, and you'll be good.


  A couple things - no, 5hrs in an Arrow after coming off Velocity transition training and I'll be worse.  It took about 5 landings to get out slow landing, aileron control on final mode and into 85kt final, all rudders.  Five hours in an Arrow right before my first flight would not be a good idea.  Secondly, why do they care about my time in a retract for liability insurance?  Landing wheels up doesn't do a lot of damage to the runway.  Sorry, just venting.


  Anyway, I'm considering my options now.  Fly without insurance for the first 5hrs?  Does anyone know any other insurance companies for low-time retract pilots (I have 5hrs retract time)?


  Geoff
  173RG
  http://thegerhardts.com/velocity




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