REFLECTOR: Transitional Training

Reiff Lorenz Reiff at Lorenz.com
Wed Apr 4 14:59:35 CDT 2012


John, Thanks for the info. I dug out your post from last year on the subject.

Reiff



On Sep 26, 2011, at 10:21, "John Abraham" <a href="mailto:John at velocityaircraft.com"John at velocityaircraft.com/a> wrote:
The aircraft can be slipped. However; I always tell people when they come in for training that it is something that they need to feel comfortable with the aircraft before doing it and the aircraft must have proper control throws. A slip in this aircraft is like the initial hill on a roller coaster (aircraft has a slight nose down). Unlike a tractor pull aircraft, you can't let your speed lower too much because you begin to lose aileron effectiveness. You need to start the slip with the airspeed indicator pegged on 90kts. This allows the ailerons to fight the rudders. However the rudders will win out if you lock-out the controls full. While the ailerons will be at full deflection, you will have to work the rudder in and out a bit to keep from rolling too far. Done properly you can lose as much as 2000fpm.

Like I said though, you need to be comfortable with the aircraft first before trying to slip it. Otherwise you will end up trying to land too fast or drifting way off the centerline.

Safe flying,

John



From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] On Behalf Of John Abraham
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 2:52 PM
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Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Transitional Training

The aircraft slips fine, most canard "experts" will tell you that you can stall a winglet or that it will come off or that you can stall the main wing.  If you look back through the Reflector I think I wrote a thing on this a year ago or so when it came up with how to do it.  I have slipped many of these and have had no issues.  I can't speak for the EZ or Cozy people, (maybe that's why the bow down to the Velocity), just my experience.

                      John Abraham
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From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org<mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org> [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org]<mailto:[mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org]> On Behalf Of Peter Braswell
Sent: Wednesday, April 04, 2012 2:34 PM
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Mark,
I seem to recall John talking about slips and speaking that they were ok.  I'm not sure though.  Maybe John, if you're monitoring you can chime in?

-Peter

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On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Mark Magee <edjonesbrady at gmail.com<mailto:edjonesbrady at gmail.com>> wrote:
Ron (and John A.)
I was told to NOT slip my XLFG, nor the company trainer. I was to use the board only. I was quite disappointed at this for I used to routinely slip my Long EZ in on base to final and on final.

Mark B. Magee
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On Apr 4, 2012, at 10:14 AM, "Ron N Velocity XLFG" <VelocityXL at fastmail.fm<mailto:VelocityXL at fastmail.fm>> wrote:
I thought about doing with out the transition training but oh so glad I did get it  . John is a great teacher.
Ask him to slip the plane in  what a ride I do not want to do that again. Was safe but man does the plane drop like a rock.

Ron
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92 VA flies very well but watch John! He puts the speed brake down on walk around ,to show it to you ,but doesn't put it back up! There is no indicator in the cockpit and ,yours truly, took off with it down......lesson learned John,

From: Peter Braswell <peter.braswell at gmail.com<mailto:peter.braswell at gmail.com>>
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Very, very cool!!!  Best of luck to you Chris, I'm certain it will go just fine!

-Peter
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On Wed, Apr 4, 2012 at 7:01 AM, Chris Barber <cbarber at texasattorney.net<mailto:cbarber at texasattorney.net>> wrote:
Here I sit at Capt Hirams enjoying a waffle at their Continental breakfast getting ready to go meet John at Sebastian Municipal for transitional training. Wow, I have comptemplated this time for years and now it's here. I hope I do ok with the center stick and left throttle. My bird has yokes and a center throttle.

This is exciting.

Just FYI

Chris Barber
Houston
SE/FG /yokes Dynon Skyview 7 inch & 13b rotary.

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