REFLECTOR: Uneven Fuel Flow
Robert Wood
slvegl99 at aol.com
Thu Sep 29 13:59:29 CDT 2011
I would guess drag & dirt/rain/ice/snow blockage or contamination. And overkill.
Bob Wood
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On Sep 29, 2011, at 2:42 PM, Jones Nick <nick.jones at volvo.com> wrote:
> would there be advantage/disadvantage to bending it into the slipstream like a pitot tube?
>
> Nick.
>
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>
> Your vent should be cut at a 45 degree angle with the point facing backwards (prop). This allows air to ram into the vent.
>
> From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] On Behalf Of Juanita Londenberg
> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 1:50 PM
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> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Uneven Fuel Flow
>
> When you say " If you were to cut your
> vent flat or scarf it backwards" -- what is the correct orientation of the vent?
>
> Juanita
>
> --- On Thu, 9/29/11, John Abraham <john at velocityaircraft.com<mailto:john at velocityaircraft.com>> wrote:
>
> From: John Abraham <john at velocityaircraft.com<mailto:john at velocityaircraft.com>>
> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Uneven Fuel Flow
> To: "'Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list'" <reflector at tvbf.org<mailto:reflector at tvbf.org>>
> Date: Thursday, September 29, 2011, 9:36 AM
> Above the fuel cap is a low pressure. This creates a vacuum on the tank if
> the cap is loose. If it is loose enough you will see fuel coming out of the
> tank. Have you ever flown a piper when a fuel cap came off on take-off? An
> entire tank will be sucked out in a matter of a minute or so. Your fuel
> vent line is pressurizing the tank with ram air. If you were to cut your
> vent flat or scarf it backwards then you can also create a vacuum on the
> tank that will not let the tanks feed very well.
>
> -----Original Message-----
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> Behalf Of Jones Nick
> Sent: Thursday, September 29, 2011 10:16 AM
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> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Uneven Fuel Flow
>
> I'm with you on this one. I hope someone can explain this.
>
> Nick Jones
> XL-RG
> N10CN
>
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> Subject: REFLECTOR: Uneven Fuel Flow
>
>
>
> Ok, at the risk of showing my ignorance, I need to chime in here.
>
> How could a minute leak in a fuel cap affect fuel flow out of a tank when
> that same tank has about a 3/8 inch hole in it vented to the outside (aka
> fuel vents)?
>
> Brooke
>
>
>
>
> From: "John Abraham"
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> Date: September 29, 2011 8:06:09 AM EDT
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> Just an additional note to what Mark said. If you have uneven fuel flow,
> you should also check the lip of the fuel ring on your tank. When you fill
> up your tank or have an FBO do this for you if they hit the ring hard enough
> with the nozzle and either dent it or score it your cap will also not close
> properly.
>
> 5-7 gallons different per side is acceptable. The tanks are fighting each
> other by gravity pressure. Also as a result of this if you are slightly out
> of rig; even half a ball, over the course of 2-3 hours on a trip you will
> have uneven feeding. More than half a tank difference is unacceptable and
> you need to land to see what is going on with your system. You do not want
> to wait until you are down to 3 gallons on one side while you have a full
> tank on the other side anticipating for it to feed.
>
> You also want to make sure that your low fuel warning light works. You can
> test it in flight without draining your tanks down. Sometimes when you hit
> turbulence it will flash the light on and off a few times. Also, if you
> stomp on the rudders back and forth 2-3 times it will make the switch
> trigger, flash the light and go out.
>
> Safe flying,
>
> John
>
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> Sent: Wednesday, September 28, 2011 8:56 PM
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> On my XL I had uneven fuel flow and asked Duane Swing to take a look when we
> stopped in Sebastian on the way to the Bahamas. He noticed two problems I
> never would have caught. The O rings on the filler cap had minute flecks of
> primer paint on them, which prevented them from creating an airtight seal.
> Andy Millin and I spent an hour picking it off with our fingernails then
> greasing them up with fuel lube. He also noticed that the gap around the
> filler caps was too tight, so that it prevented the cap on one side from
> seating properly. We just sanded it back ever so slightly until the cap
> didn't rock at all when latched shut. If you try these fixes and still
> wonder about your caps, you can try covering them with duct tape. Even a
> minute problem like I've described can cause uneven drainage from the tanks
> even in a properly rigged plane.
>
> Two more thoughts - first, it is not uncommon for the tanks to drain
> unevenly but catch up to each other. One of my tanks always drains faster
> between about 25 and 17 gallons, then the other one catches up. Second, if
> the tanks get uneven, you can simply slip the plane for 1-2 minutes with the
> uneven tank up. I find that they then drain evenly. I tried this for the
> first time 100 miles from the nearest land on my way back to pick up the
> Millins. Probably better to try it in a more comfortable setting first.
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> Mark
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> The unequal fuel born is because of the miss adjusted rudder trim. The fuel
> is acting as a really big BALL and is moving with the litttle ball.
>
> Glenn Babcock
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>
> Izzy,
>
> Here's what I did:
>
> - On the ground, level the plane. Use a rotary laser level to level the
> wings left to right, you can get one for under $100. Put sawhorses or
> something under the wings to hold the position. Also level the plane front
> to back.
> - Verify that the wing incidence is correct for both wings using the
> incidence gauge. While you're at it verify the canard incidence.
> - Verify the strake leading edge position on both sides.
> - If needed, shim the wings and/or canard. If the strakes are out that's a
> more complicated fix!
> - Now check that the TC is level (mine wasn't, making the problem look worse
> than it was). The ball should be right in the center.
> - If you made no corrections in the wings or canard, shim the rudder (if you
> made corrections, test fly first to see if it's still out). I found that
> you can hot glue bits of tongue depressor at the top, middle and bottom of
> the rudder then trim them down as needed. A small amount of shim makes a
> big difference! Make sure that the rudder touches all three shims when it's
> resting.
> - Also check the opposite rudder, you may be able to trim a SMALL amount off
> of that side.
> - Once you have the correct amount of shim, fill the gap with epoxy mixed
> with micro glass or flox, then after it cures sand it till it's neat. It's
> very easy to do.
>
> The fuel not draining evenly may be due to a leaking fuel cap. Remove the
> cap and coat the O-rings with Fuelube. Make sure you get the little one on
> the stem as well as the big one on the rim.
>
> Regards,
> Glenn
>
>
> On Sep 28, 2011, at 9:06 AM, Dugas Bellsouth wrote:
>
> I did the same only used 1/16" angle aluminum. I trimmed a 1.5" so when
> placed inside of the winglet it was flush with the airflow surface on the
> fuselage side of the winglet. I the epoxied it to the inside of the winglet
> and flew. Worked great. Still there and did not require all the glass work.
>
> Rene' Dugas
> Sent from my iPhone4
>
> On Sep 27, 2011, at 5:56 PM, Scott Derrick
> <scott at tnstaafl.net<https://mail.volvo.net/owa/UrlBlockedError.aspx><mailto:scott at tnstaafl.net<https://mail.volvo.net/owa/UrlBlockedError.aspx>>> wrote:
>
> Trim the left rudder out until the ball is in the center.
>
> Tape the vertical with duct tape near the lower part of the rudder.
> Place a shim between the rudder and the vertical, about an 1/8 inch thick.
> Then fill the gap with micro or epoxy glue, about 2 inches long, so it
> sticks to the rudder. Let cure, clean it up and fly. If that was to much
> file the new tab down a bit and test fly again. If the ball is still out,
> add another 1/8 inch and test fly. Do this until the ball is in the center.
>
>
> Once you have the ball in the center, yaw trim, you can evaluate the
> roll trim. If the plane still wants to roll and the roll trim cannot
> handle that you can shim both or one wing. You usually want to shim the
> light wing first by taking some of the aoa out of that wing by shimming the
> lower bolt. If thta s not enough add in more aoa to the heavy wing by
> shimming the upper bolts.
>
> Scott
>
> Izzy Brownfield <iznstacy at yahoo.com<https://mail.volvo.net/owa/UrlBlockedError.aspx><mailto:iznstacy at yahoo.com<https://mail.volvo.net/owa/UrlBlockedError.aspx>>> wrote:
>
> I'm a new owner of a STD RG with io-360 three blade MT prop At cruise T&B
> indicator is half ball to the left with a slight left turn tendency. Fuel is
> consumed from the right tank at twice the rate of the left tank.
> To center the ball it requires quite a bit of left rudder and light right
> aileron pressure.
> What adjustment is needed to be made to correct this?
> Thanks
> Izzy
> 5txo
>
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> It may be that or it may not, or it may be both. I know that many people
> have chased fuel flow problems all around the aircraft only to find the fuel
> caps were leaking, causing a drop in pressure in one tank and restricting
> fuel flow on that side. A tiny amount of Fuelube and about 5 minutes effort
> and the problem is solved.
>
> Regards,
> Glenn
>
>
> On Sep 28, 2011, at 7:05 PM, Scott Derrick wrote:
>
> The unequal fuel born is because of the miss adjusted rudder trim. The fuel
> is acting as a really big BALL and is moving with the litttle ball.
>
> Glenn Babcock
> <glennbabcock at roadrunner.com<https://mail.volvo.net/owa/UrlBlockedError.aspx><mailto:glennbabcock at roadrunner.com<https://mail.volvo.net/owa/UrlBlockedError.aspx>>> wrote:
>
> Izzy,
>
> Here's what I did:
>
> - On the ground, level the plane. Use a rotary laser level to level the
> wings left to right, you can get one for under $100. Put sawhorses or
> something under the wings to hold the position. Also level the plane front
> to back.
> - Verify that the wing incidence is correct for both wings using the
> incidence gauge. While you're at it verify the canard incidence.
> - Verify the strake leading edge position on both sides.
> - If needed, shim the wings and/or canard. If the strakes are out that's a
> more complicated fix!
> - Now check that the TC is level (mine wasn't, making the problem look worse
> than it was). The ball should be right in the center.
> - If you made no corrections in the wings or canard, shim the rudder (if you
> made corrections, test fly first to see if it's still out). I found that
> you can hot glue bits of tongue depressor at the top, middle and bottom of
> the rudder then trim them down as needed. A small amount of shim makes a
> big difference! Make sure that the rudder touches all three shims when it's
> resting.
> - Also check the opposite rudder, you may be able to trim a SMALL amount off
> of that side.
> - Once you have the correct amount of shim, fill the gap with epoxy mixed
> with micro glass or flox, then after it cures sand it till it's neat. It's
> very easy to do.
>
> The fuel not draining evenly may be due to a leaking fuel cap. Remove the
> cap and coat the O-rings with Fuelube. Make sure you get the little one on
> the stem as well as the big one on the rim.
>
> Regards,
> Glenn
>
>
> On Sep 28, 2011, at 9:06 AM, Dugas Bellsouth wrote:
>
> I did the same only used 1/16" angle aluminum. I trimmed a 1.5" so when
> placed inside of the winglet it was flush with the airflow surface on the
> fuselage side of the winglet. I the epoxied it to the inside of the winglet
> and flew. Worked great. Still there and did not require all the glass work.
>
> Rene' Dugas
> Sent from my iPhone4
>
> On Sep 27, 2011, at 5:56 PM, Scott Derrick
> <scott at tnstaafl.net<https://mail.volvo.net/owa/UrlBlockedError.aspx><mailto:scott at tnstaafl.net<https://mail.volvo.net/owa/UrlBlockedError.aspx>>> wrote:
>
> Trim the left rudder out until the ball is in the center.
>
> Tape the vertical with duct tape near the lower part of the rudder.
> Place a shim between the rudder and the vertical, about an 1/8 inch thick.
> Then fill the gap with micro or epoxy glue, about 2 inches long, so it
> sticks to the rudder. Let cure, clean it up and fly. If that was to much
> file the new tab down a bit and test fly again. If the ball is still out,
> add another 1/8 inch and test fly. Do this until the ball is in the center.
>
>
> Once you have the ball in the center, yaw trim, you can evaluate the
> roll trim. If the plane still wants to roll and the roll trim cannot
> handle that you can shim both or one wing. You usually want to shim the
> light wing first by taking some of the aoa out of that wing by shimming the
> lower bolt. If thta s not enough add in more aoa to the heavy wing by
> shimming the upper bolts.
>
> Scott
>
> Izzy Brownfield <iznstacy at yahoo.com<https://mail.volvo.net/owa/UrlBlockedError.aspx><mailto:iznstacy at yahoo.com<https://mail.volvo.net/owa/UrlBlockedError.aspx>>> wrote:
>
> I'm a new owner of a STD RG with io-360 three blade MT prop At cruise T&B
> indicator is half ball to the left with a slight left turn tendency. Fuel is
> consumed from the right tank at twice the rate of the left tank.
> To center the ball it requires quite a bit of left rudder and light right
> aileron pressure.
> What adjustment is needed to be made to correct this?
> Thanks
> Izzy
> 5txo
>
> Sent from my iPhone
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