REFLECTOR: FAR 91.109

Michael Watson mikewatsspg at gmail.com
Sat Sep 24 14:42:16 CDT 2011


Thanks to all that responded. I have always used a 172 to do  my bi-annuals
through the local flight school.
This time the instructor had no problems doing it in my V.  So from the
responses I guess am OK. (Legal)



On Fri, Sep 23, 2011 at 5:20 PM, Patrick Horvath <phorvath at mindspring.com>wrote:

> I am an instructor (CFII-MEI).  The definition we use for Dual Controls is
> ability to control the aircraft from either seat - as opposed to a
> side-by-side where there was only a stick on one side, or a Bonanza-style
> throw-over yoke.
>
> There is a good AOPA discussion of Dual Flight Controls that focused on
> dual brakes but gives some clarification for this too (
> http://www.aopa.org/whatsnew/regulatory/regdual.html). They said: "The
> term "dual controls" under section 91.109(a) refers to flight controls (e.g.
> pitch, yaw, and roll controls). These flight controls are the only required
> dual controls for the purposes of meeting the requirements under section
> 91.109(a)."  Center stick therefore qualifies for aileron/elevator control
> from both seats.  That should also address the question about dual
> throttle.
>
> As the instructor, as long as I can control the aircraft from my seat, and
> I determine the flight can be conducted safely, I can provide instruction
> and/or flight review in center stick aircraft.
>
> Hope that helps.
>
> Patrick Horvath
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Sep 23, 2011, at 1:26 PM, Michael Watson <mikewatsspg at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hi All,
>
> I was reading through the FAR's in preparation for my Bi-Annual when I ran
> into this statement
> in FAR 91.109.
>
> No person may operate a civil aircraft (except a manned free balloon) that
> is being used for flight instruction or Flight review unless that aircraft
> has fully functioning dual controls
>
> 28. May I get a flight review in an aircraft that does
> not have dual controls?
>
> No. FAR 61.56 specifically requires “flight instruction,”
> to be given during a flight review. FAR 91.109
> requires that all flight instruction be given in aircraft
> equipped with dual controls. The only exception to
> this requirement is simulated instrument flight in a
> single-engine aircraft with a single throw-over
> control wheel.
>
>
> Dose that mean that one cannot do his/her flight review in a Velocity with
> a center stick ?????. Or did I misread it.  Comments.
>
> --
> Mike W.
> 1997 Velocity Elite RG
> Franklin /IVO Electric CS
> Dual GRT EFIS HX Synthetic Vision
>
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Mike W.
1997 Velocity Elite RG
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