REFLECTOR: Altitude

Kevin Baker flykb at verizon.net
Mon Sep 19 19:11:20 CDT 2011


Hi All,
Thank you so much for your help on this topic also.
With no standard "runway/performance" chart to ref you all with your 
experience have been exceedingly helpful and I am grateful for the help.

Thanks again,
Kevin Baker


On 9/15/2011 12:47 PM, Kevin Baker wrote:
> Hi Scott
> I assume you run a catto?
> If so what pitch/length?
>
> That is great information
>
> Thanks
> Kevin
> .
>
> On Sep 15, 2011, at 12:05, Scott Derrick <scott at tnstaafl.net 
> <mailto:scott at tnstaafl.net>> wrote:
>
>> Ruben,
>>
>> I've flown a STD RG with a IO360 200HP 500 hours between Grants, NM 
>> and SFO, flown around Colorado, Utah, Arizona, Calif, etc..   Lightly 
>> and loaded and gross loaded..
>>
>> The Velocity is a great cross country machine once your in the air.  
>> I've had mine with the IO360 to 19, 000.  It was fine but I was 
>> certainly near or at its ceiling at that altitude.  With a Lightspeed 
>> EI.  I regularly fly between 10,000 and 14,000.  You need to bring 
>> your mining equipment fly any lower on many of the routes around here.
>>
>> The weakness in the V, at least with normally aspirated engine and 
>> fixed pitch prop is runway length at high density altitude airports. 
>> You can and will use a lot of runway.  Be conscious of the DA.  If 
>> you are going to travel at or near gross weight, plan on early 
>> morning departures.  Its a smoother ride anyway in the mornings so  
>> you get two birds with one stone.  Be aware you can easily land at a 
>> filed that you don't have the power to take off from at the same 
>> weight and temperature.
>>
>> I use the Aerox oxygen system and it works great, but I really like 
>> the Mountain High demand system.  If your going to use O2, I would 
>> highly recommend getting a Pulse Oxymeter any of the clip on oxygen 
>> meters to monitor your(mainly) and any passengers.  Especially if you 
>> don't have high altitude experience.  Its really tough to recognize 
>> oxygen deprivation.
>>
>> I live on the I40 corridor and you can easily fly this route at 
>> 10,500, though I don't.  You can do 9,500 most of the way with a 
>> short climb east of ABQ and around FLG..  Lots of airports along the 
>> way.  There is no reason to fly so low in the V.  12,500 & 13,500 are 
>> easily done and the climb rate to those altitudes during cooler 
>> weather is more than adequate.
>>
>> Your going in the fall-winter season so that will help a lot towards 
>> the density altitude situation.
>>
>> So, be aware of DA.  If its warm, depart in the mornings if at all 
>> possible.  If you have to stop for gas in the middle of the day, look 
>> for long runways.  7,000+ is not unusual if the altitude is above 
>> 6,000 ft.
>>
>> Fly one of the main routes, I40, I80, etc..
>>
>> Fly a minimum of 10,500 or 12,500 west bound, the higher the better.  
>> Its smoother usually. Also get flight following from ATC.  Nothing 
>> like having somebody outside teh cockpit looking out for you and most 
>> of the controllers know the terrain and will prompt you for the 
>> correct response if your pushing the envelope.
>>
>> And have fun!!  There is no where more beautiful or awe inspiring to 
>> fly than the mountain west!  Visibilities are 100+ miles and the 
>> vista's and sunrises/sunsets will take your breath away!
>>
>> Scott
>>
>>
>>
>> -------- Original Message --------
>> Subject: REFLECTOR: Altitude
>> From: Ruben Creus <ruben at vainneg.com <mailto:ruben at vainneg.com>>
>> To: reflector at tvbf.org <mailto:reflector at tvbf.org>
>> Date: 09/14/2011 10:11 PM
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I am planning a trip to the West coast from the East coast and it 
>>> happens the Rocky Mountains are in the between. I have a SE-FG with 
>>> an IO-360 180HP. I wonder if anyone has any experience climbing to 
>>> 16,000ft (the max. ceiling) with this type of configuration and what 
>>> performance is to expect climbing and cruising at that altitude. I 
>>> can climb fine to 9,000ft or 10,000ft but never gone above. I have 
>>> also looked at the Aerox oxygen system, it seems very compact. The 
>>> other issue would be taking off at fields that are at 7,000ft. 
>>> Certainly they have long runways.
>>>
>>> So, I wonder if there is anyone in that area who could share their 
>>> experience in this type of adventure.
>>>
>>> Thanks.
>>>
>>> Ruben Creus
>>>
>>> N21VA
>>>
>>>
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