REFLECTOR: IFR Flight

Fri Oct 28 12:09:02 CDT 2011

Andy, 

As a Controller, I hate to admit it, but switching to an IFR flight plan is kind of dependent on where you are flying. It shouldn't be that way, but attitudes at different facilities can be quite unique. 

In my airspace, if you are receiving flight following, all you have to do is say that you would like to pick up an IFR and specify the altitude requested. If the route you want is different than direct, let them know after you get the IFR. 

This IS workload dependent, so don't get yourselves in trouble hoping that it can be picked up in a matter of seconds if things are really busy or if there is IFR traffic in your way. 

One thing to keep in mind. If you are on an actual VFR flight plan with FSS, you will have to cancel that yourself!  Unfortunately, if you pick up an IFR from a VFR flight plan (not just flight following), your old VFR one remains active. Even if you show up where you intended, FSS will not know unless you call and tell them. Then they will start trying to find you.

Most controllers will ask for your "IFR flight information or IFR flight plan information. This goes on the tape in case it is needed later. Basically, we will need the rest of the stuff that is not already know (Aircraft color, fuel on board, ETE, Contact information etc.)

I have heard of some other facilities telling you to go to FSS and actually file an IFR flight plan. Time permitting, I just find that lazy. 

Kurt Winker
Albuquerque Center.

-----Original Message-----
From: aminetech <aminetech at bluefrog.com>
To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list <reflector at tvbf.org>
Sent: Fri, Oct 28, 2011 6:50 am
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: IFR Flight

Andy,

What's the procedure for switching to IFR in flight?

John

--- ajudge at grovenetworks.com wrote:

From: Andrew Judge <ajudge at grovenetworks.com>
To: "'reflector at tvbf.org'" <reflector at tvbf.org>
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: IFR Flight
Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2011 14:17:15 +0000

I fly IFR along V198 to KNEW sometimes. It's way easier to go flight following along the coast. Too many MOA to deal with routing there unless they clear you direct. Just convert to IFR if necessary. 

Andy

From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org <reflector-bounces at tvbf.org> 
To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list <reflector at tvbf.org> 
Sent: Fri Oct 28 09:12:15 2011
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: IFR Flight 

Thanks.  I was wondering how I could fly IFR through the Eglin E-W corridor.  Now I see that's just for VFR traffic?

John

--- scottb33333 at gmail.com wrote:

From: "Scott Baker" <scottb33333 at gmail.com>
To: "Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list" <reflector at tvbf.org>
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: IFR Flight
Date: Thu, 27 Oct 2011 18:21:32 -0400

Its been my experience when flying Velocity aircraft in rain that speeds drop about 5-knots (as you described).
Pitch changes/bumps occur with convective activity.  I normally see a small pitch up when entering clouds.
When flying an IFR clearance, ATC airspace, MOA's, TFR's, and Restricted airspace are no longer factors ... fly the clearance.
Scott B
CFI-I

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