REFLECTOR: Shape of strake window?

Dan Schindler danpilot91 at gmail.com
Fri Oct 7 15:59:22 CDT 2011


What shape and dimensions seem to work best

Thank you,

Dan Schindler

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> Subject: RE: REFLECTOR: Windows in strake baggage area
> Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 09:49:58 -0700
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> I fly with my kids alot... The kids love them... They even call them their windows. I am always flying with more than 2 people so they always get used. It makes for cool pics of landing. it also lets you have a visual on the main gear. I used 1/4 scratch resistant lexan (not cheap) although after 2 years of flying almost every weekend they have light scratches in them. Nothing that cant be polished out... The only con I ran into is the cost of the lexan and the time to do it... other than that I love them...Jeff
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> Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 11:36:41 -0500
> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Windows in strake baggage area
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> I think I used 1/8" lexan, IIRC.  Here's my take.
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> prossome folks get weird if they can't see the runway on final, and without them, they ain't seeing in the back much of the timethe strake limits near-field visibility for the back seat passenger, this helps (but not a fix)
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> constakes up fuel space (in retrospect, I would angle the outer/winglet end bulkhead from outer bottom to inner top to minimize)takes some time to docost some moneydoesn't make the plane faster, safer, or lighter
> someone will invariably set something on them, scratching the Holy Living Crap (HLC) out of them (we made upholstery covers, or rather, had Dave Spano make them)how often is anyone going to realistically be back there?
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> Trying to decide if I am going to put windows in the strake baggage area. 
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> I have seen several velocities with this option. Was wondering about pros and cons to doing this? 
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> What type of material is best for this window?
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> Thank you,
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> Jeff,
> This is a great discussion and timely for me as I progress through the
> strake fabrication.
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> Do you have a source for the scratch-proof lexan?
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> TIA,
> Peter
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> On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 3:46 PM, Jeff Howell <jeffreyhowell at hotmail.com>wrote:
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>> ------------------------------
>> From: jeffreyhowell at hotmail.com
>> To: reflector at velocityxl.com
>> Subject: RE: REFLECTOR: Windows in strake baggage area
>> Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 09:49:58 -0700
>> 
>> I fly with my kids alot... The kids love them... They even call them their
>> windows. I am always flying with more than 2 people so they always get used.
>> It makes for cool pics of landing. it also lets you have a visual on the
>> main gear. I used 1/4 scratch resistant lexan (not cheap) although after 2
>> years of flying almost every weekend they have light scratches in them.
>> Nothing that cant be polished out... The only con I ran into is the cost of
>> the lexan and the time to do it... other than that I love them...Jeff
>> 
>> ------------------------------
>> From: reflector at velocityxl.com
>> To: reflector at tvbf.org
>> Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 11:36:41 -0500
>> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Windows in strake baggage area
>> 
>> I think I used 1/8" lexan, IIRC.  Here's my take.
>> 
>> *pros*
>> 
>>   - some folks get weird if they can't see the runway on final, and
>>   without them, they ain't seeing in the back much of the time
>>   - the strake limits near-field visibility for the back seat passenger,
>>   this helps (but not a fix)
>> 
>> 
>> *cons*
>> 
>>   - takes up fuel space (in retrospect, I would angle the outer/winglet
>>   end bulkhead from outer bottom to inner top to minimize)
>> 
>> 
>>   - takes *some* time to do
>>   - cost *some* money
>>   - doesn't make the plane faster, safer, or lighter
>>   - someone will invariably set something on them, scratching the Holy
>>   Living Crap (HLC) out of them (we made upholstery covers, or rather, had
>>   Dave Spano make them)
>>   - how often is anyone going to realistically be back there?
>> 
>> B
>> 
>> -------Original Message-------
>> From: Dan Schindler
>> To: reflector at tvbf.org
>> Subject: REFLECTOR: Windows in strake baggage area
>> Sent: 07 Oct '11 11:18
>> 
>> Trying to decide if I am going to put windows in the strake baggage area.
>> I have seen several velocities with this option. Was wondering about pros
>> and cons to doing this?
>> 
>> What type of material is best for this window?
>> 
>> Thank you,
>> 
>> Dan Schindler
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> I used a company called All Valley Glass and Plastics here in palmdale Ca. (93551??) I had them cut it to size then I used a roughter and put a 1/8 kinmill all the way around the glass. Then I glued it in place using 1776 b1/2 fuel tank sealant and shot bags... the sealant is a polysulfide sealant with excellent adhesion characters and flexibility... worked great!!! Jeff 
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> Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 15:57:29 -0400
> From: peter.braswell at gmail.com
> To: reflector at tvbf.org
> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: FW: Windows in strake baggage area
> 
> Jeff, 
> This is a great discussion and timely for me as I progress through the strake fabrication.
> 
> 
> Do you have a source for the scratch-proof lexan?
> 
> 
> 
> 
> TIA,
> Peter------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 
> "It's a Jungle Up There": www.zuluworks.com
> 
> Great Aviation Gear: www.sky-gadgets.com
> ------------------------------------------------------------------------
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> On Fri, Oct 7, 2011 at 3:46 PM, Jeff Howell <jeffreyhowell at hotmail.com> wrote:
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> From: jeffreyhowell at hotmail.com
> To: reflector at velocityxl.com
> Subject: RE: REFLECTOR: Windows in strake baggage area
> Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 09:49:58 -0700
> 
> 
> I fly with my kids alot... The kids love them... They even call them their windows. I am always flying with more than 2 people so they always get used. It makes for cool pics of landing. it also lets you have a visual on the main gear. I used 1/4 scratch resistant lexan (not cheap) although after 2 years of flying almost every weekend they have light scratches in them. Nothing that cant be polished out... The only con I ran into is the cost of the lexan and the time to do it... other than that I love them...Jeff
> 
> 
> 
> 
> From: reflector at velocityxl.com
> To: reflector at tvbf.org
> Date: Fri, 7 Oct 2011 11:36:41 -0500
> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Windows in strake baggage area
> 
> 
> I think I used 1/8" lexan, IIRC.  Here's my take.
> 
> 
> 
> pros
> 
> 
> some folks get weird if they can't see the runway on final, and without them, they ain't seeing in the back much of the time
> the strake limits near-field visibility for the back seat passenger, this helps (but not a fix)
> 
> 
> 
> cons
> 
> 
> takes up fuel space (in retrospect, I would angle the outer/winglet end bulkhead from outer bottom to inner top to minimize)
> 
> 
> takes some time to do
> cost some money
> doesn't make the plane faster, safer, or lighter
> 
> someone will invariably set something on them, scratching the Holy Living Crap (HLC) out of them (we made upholstery covers, or rather, had Dave Spano make them)
> how often is anyone going to realistically be back there?
> 
> B
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> -------Original Message-------
> From: Dan Schindler 
> To: reflector at tvbf.org 
> Subject: REFLECTOR: Windows in strake baggage area
> Sent: 07 Oct '11 11:18
> 
> Trying to decide if I am going to put windows in the strake baggage area. 
> I have seen several velocities with this option. Was wondering about pros and cons to doing this? 
> 
> What type of material is best for this window?
> 
> Thank you,
> 
> Dan Schindler
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