REFLECTOR: Velocity Crash at Sebastian

Brett Ferrell reflector at velocityxl.com
Thu Oct 6 19:17:56 CDT 2011 

All of the reporting says he was unhurt.  And does anybody know what
airplane this was?  Looks like the cowling is an SE, but the only
Davenport, Iowa Velocity I see is an XL registered to Shea....

Brett


	-------Original Message-------
  From: Mark Riley
  To: reflector at tvbf.org
  Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Reflector Digest, Vol 79, Velocity Crash at
Sebastian
  Sent: 06 Oct '11 18:42

  Does anyone have more info on the Velocity that crashed at Sebastian
today? Is the pilot definitely unhurt? What was he doing there, flight
training or just passing through, etc?


  On Oct 2, 2011, at 11:25 PM, [LINK:
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  >   1.  Plane painted - wow, that was a lot of work! (Geoff Gerhardt)
  >   2.  Trim (Izzy Brownfield)
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  >   4. Re:  Plane painted - wow, that was a lot of work! (Erik Franks)
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  > Message: 1
  > Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 19:08:53 -0700
  > From: Geoff Gerhardt <[LINK: compose.php?to=geoff.gerhardt at gmail.com]
geoff.gerhardt at gmail.com>
  > Subject: REFLECTOR: Plane painted - wow, that was a lot of work!
  > To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list <[LINK:
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  > Folks,
  >
  > Over the last few weeks I painted my plane.  What a huge amount of
work.
  > You can see the pictures and read about it here
  > <[LINK: http://thegerhardts.com/velocity/?p=299]
http://thegerhardts.com/velocity/?p=299>(
  > [LINK: http://thegerhardts.com/velocity/?p=299]
http://thegerhardts.com/velocity/?p=299) if you're interested.  Basic white
  > with burgundy/silver stripes and around the windows.  Tons of prep
work,
  > many late nights masking stripes and N-Numbers, but great to see it all
  > finished.  It turned out great - I'm very pleased.  Its now out of my
home
  > shop, and at my hangar at KORH (Worcester, MA), which is ~20min drive
away.
  > Its a bit tougher to work on it out there instead of my basement shop
so it
  > might go a little slower...I'm on the home stretch now, though!
  >
  > Geoff
  > [LINK: http://thegerhardts.com/velocity]
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  > From: Izzy Brownfield <[LINK: compose.php?to=iznstacy at yahoo.com]
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  > Subject: REFLECTOR: Trim
  > To: "[LINK: compose.php?to=reflector at tvbf.org] reflector at tvbf.org"
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  >> I put the shim on the lower outbd bolt do you think shimming the inbd
bolt would make more of a difference
  > Izzy
  >>
  >> Just for a frame of reference, for first flight I had one .065" washer
on
  >> each of the two top right wing attach bolts because that is what it
took to
  >> get the incidence gauge level. After I started flying I think the yaw
was
  >> off by more than half a ball and it wanted to roll. I removed the
washers
  >> and the ball still wasn't centered, so then I put one of the washers
on the
  >> top inside left wing attach bolt.  After that the ball was almost
centered--
  >> it was between the lines but closer to one line than the other. I
added
  >> another washer to the left wing but then the cowl wouldn't fit right
  >> anymore, so I removed it and now fly with a slight yaw. I suppose I
should
  >> trim the rudder to get it perfect. Would I save a little gas if I did?
  >>
  >> The shims did change the interface at the strake-wing leading edge,
but that
  >> didn't matter on my plane. When I originally installed the strakes the

  >> leading edges didn't match up with the wings by about 3/4". I could
have
  >> glassed it all in to match, but instead I installed "cosmetic
vortillons" in
  >> the seam between the strake and the wing leading edges. Because
there's a
  >> wall between the leading edges you don't notice that they don't line
up
  >> unless you're looking for it. I am so glad I didn't go to all the
trouble of
  >> glassing them up perfectly because I would have had to do it all over
again
  >> after I re-shimmed the wings. (pictures attached.)
  >>
  >> Doug Holub
  >> Standard FG
  >>
  >> ----- Original Message -----
  >> From: "Izzy Brownfield" <[LINK: compose.php?to=iznstacy at yahoo.com]
iznstacy at yahoo.com>
  >> To: <[LINK: compose.php?to=reflector at tvbf.org] reflector at tvbf.org>
  >> Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2011 7:21 PM
  >> Subject: REFLECTOR: Trim
  >>
  >>
  >>> I shimmed the right wing lower bolt with one thin washer approx .025
in.
  >>> Flew airplane and really could not tell a difference it may have
helped a
  >>> bit but not what I expected. Still required left rudder and right
aileron
  >>> to center the ball. Wing to strake mismatch at the leading edge was
quite
  >>> a bit.
  >>> I removed the shim and now I'm going to shim the the left rudder out
and
  >>> see what that does.
  >>> Izzy
  >>>
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  > Subject: REFLECTOR: Trim
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  > Sorry just noticed my typo I used a .065 washer not .025
  > Izzy
  >>
  >>
  >> I shimmed the right wing lower bolt with one thin washer approx .025
in.
  >> Flew airplane and really could not tell a difference it may have
helped a bit but not what I expected. Still required left rudder and right
aileron to center the ball. Wing to strake mismatch at the leading edge was
quite a bit.
  >> I removed the shim and now I'm going to shim the the left rudder out
and see what that does.
  >> Izzy
  >>
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  > Message: 4
  > Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 19:57:33 -0700
  > From: Erik Franks <[LINK: compose.php?to=efranks at frugalmedia.com]
efranks at frugalmedia.com>
  > Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Plane painted - wow, that was a lot of work!
  > To: [LINK: compose.php?to=geoff.gerhardt at gmail.com]
geoff.gerhardt at gmail.com,	 Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders
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  > Very nice, congrats
  > -Erik Franks
  >
  >
  > On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Geoff Gerhardt <[LINK:
compose.php?to=geoff.gerhardt at gmail.com] geoff.gerhardt at gmail.com>wrote:
  >
  >> Folks,
  >>
  >> Over the last few weeks I painted my plane.  What a huge amount of
work.
  >> You can see the pictures and read about it here
  >> <[LINK: http://thegerhardts.com/velocity/?p=299]
http://thegerhardts.com/velocity/?p=299>(
  >> [LINK: http://thegerhardts.com/velocity/?p=299]
http://thegerhardts.com/velocity/?p=299) if you're interested.  Basic
  >> white with burgundy/silver stripes and around the windows.  Tons of
prep
  >> work, many late nights masking stripes and N-Numbers, but great to see
it
  >> all finished.  It turned out great - I'm very pleased.  Its now out of
my
  >> home shop, and at my hangar at KORH (Worcester, MA), which is ~20min
drive
  >> away.  Its a bit tougher to work on it out there instead of my
basement shop
  >> so it might go a little slower...I'm on the home stretch now, though!
  >>
  >> Geoff
  >> [LINK: http://thegerhardts.com/velocity]
http://thegerhardts.com/velocity
  >>
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  > Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 23:25:36 -0400
  > From: "Lou Stedman" <[LINK: compose.php?to=stedmanlou at roadrunner.com]
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  > Subject: REFLECTOR: Fw: [c-a] crash at RR
  > To: "Velocity Reflector" <[LINK: compose.php?to=reflector at tvbf.org]
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  >
  > From: DON JONES
  > Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2011 10:07 PM
  > To: canard-aviators
  > Subject: [c-a] crash at RR
  >
  >
  >
  > I've been helping the NTSB and FAA with their investigation of the
crash at RR. I'm trying to establish if the pilot of the Glassair was
making radio calls during his takeoff and short flight until the crash.
I've pulled the following N numbers from my photo files of the first few
planes to land just after the crash. Please e-mail me if you heard anything
over the radio from pilot, either yes or no and what you remember him
transmitted if anything. Thanks in advance for helping. Please forward this
e-mail to the Cozy and Velocity list.
  >
  > Don Jones
  > Berkut FG
  >
  >
  > N321VE     Velocity
  >
  > N103MH     LongEze
  >
  > N25KF       Race 99
  >
  > N271J         LongEze
  >
  > N197DL     COZY MK 4
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