REFLECTOR: Reflector Digest, Vol 79, Velocity Crash at Sebastian

Mark Riley the_rileys1 at verizon.net
Thu Oct 6 18:42:19 CDT 2011 

Does anyone have more info on the Velocity that crashed at Sebastian today? Is the pilot definitely unhurt? What was he doing there, flight training or just passing through, etc?


On Oct 2, 2011, at 11:25 PM, reflector-request at tvbf.org wrote:

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>   1.  Plane painted - wow, that was a lot of work! (Geoff Gerhardt)
>   2.  Trim (Izzy Brownfield)
>   3.  Trim (Izzy Brownfield)
>   4. Re:  Plane painted - wow, that was a lot of work! (Erik Franks)
>   5.  Fw: [c-a] crash at RR (Lou Stedman)
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> Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 19:08:53 -0700
> From: Geoff Gerhardt <geoff.gerhardt at gmail.com>
> Subject: REFLECTOR: Plane painted - wow, that was a lot of work!
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> Folks,
> 
> Over the last few weeks I painted my plane.  What a huge amount of work.
> You can see the pictures and read about it here
> <http://thegerhardts.com/velocity/?p=299>(
> http://thegerhardts.com/velocity/?p=299) if you're interested.  Basic white
> with burgundy/silver stripes and around the windows.  Tons of prep work,
> many late nights masking stripes and N-Numbers, but great to see it all
> finished.  It turned out great - I'm very pleased.  Its now out of my home
> shop, and at my hangar at KORH (Worcester, MA), which is ~20min drive away.
> Its a bit tougher to work on it out there instead of my basement shop so it
> might go a little slower...I'm on the home stretch now, though!
> 
> Geoff
> http://thegerhardts.com/velocity
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> Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 21:43:46 -0500
> From: Izzy Brownfield <iznstacy at yahoo.com>
> Subject: REFLECTOR: Trim
> To: "reflector at tvbf.org" <reflector at tvbf.org>
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>> I put the shim on the lower outbd bolt do you think shimming the inbd bolt would make more of a difference
> Izzy
>> 
>> Just for a frame of reference, for first flight I had one .065" washer on 
>> each of the two top right wing attach bolts because that is what it took to 
>> get the incidence gauge level. After I started flying I think the yaw was 
>> off by more than half a ball and it wanted to roll. I removed the washers 
>> and the ball still wasn't centered, so then I put one of the washers on the 
>> top inside left wing attach bolt.  After that the ball was almost centered--  
>> it was between the lines but closer to one line than the other. I added 
>> another washer to the left wing but then the cowl wouldn't fit right 
>> anymore, so I removed it and now fly with a slight yaw. I suppose I should 
>> trim the rudder to get it perfect. Would I save a little gas if I did?
>> 
>> The shims did change the interface at the strake-wing leading edge, but that 
>> didn't matter on my plane. When I originally installed the strakes the 
>> leading edges didn't match up with the wings by about 3/4". I could have 
>> glassed it all in to match, but instead I installed "cosmetic vortillons" in 
>> the seam between the strake and the wing leading edges. Because there's a 
>> wall between the leading edges you don't notice that they don't line up 
>> unless you're looking for it. I am so glad I didn't go to all the trouble of 
>> glassing them up perfectly because I would have had to do it all over again 
>> after I re-shimmed the wings. (pictures attached.)
>> 
>> Doug Holub
>> Standard FG
>> 
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Izzy Brownfield" <iznstacy at yahoo.com>
>> To: <reflector at tvbf.org>
>> Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2011 7:21 PM
>> Subject: REFLECTOR: Trim
>> 
>> 
>>> I shimmed the right wing lower bolt with one thin washer approx .025 in.
>>> Flew airplane and really could not tell a difference it may have helped a 
>>> bit but not what I expected. Still required left rudder and right aileron 
>>> to center the ball. Wing to strake mismatch at the leading edge was quite 
>>> a bit.
>>> I removed the shim and now I'm going to shim the the left rudder out and 
>>> see what that does.
>>> Izzy
>>> 
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> Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 22:11:04 -0500
> From: Izzy Brownfield <iznstacy at yahoo.com>
> Subject: REFLECTOR: Trim
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> Sorry just noticed my typo I used a .065 washer not .025
> Izzy
>> 
>> 
>> I shimmed the right wing lower bolt with one thin washer approx .025 in. 
>> Flew airplane and really could not tell a difference it may have helped a bit but not what I expected. Still required left rudder and right aileron to center the ball. Wing to strake mismatch at the leading edge was quite a bit. 
>> I removed the shim and now I'm going to shim the the left rudder out and see what that does. 
>> Izzy
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> Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 19:57:33 -0700
> From: Erik Franks <efranks at frugalmedia.com>
> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Plane painted - wow, that was a lot of work!
> To: geoff.gerhardt at gmail.com,	Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders
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> Very nice, congrats
> -Erik Franks
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> On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 7:08 PM, Geoff Gerhardt <geoff.gerhardt at gmail.com>wrote:
> 
>> Folks,
>> 
>> Over the last few weeks I painted my plane.  What a huge amount of work.
>> You can see the pictures and read about it here
>> <http://thegerhardts.com/velocity/?p=299>(
>> http://thegerhardts.com/velocity/?p=299) if you're interested.  Basic
>> white with burgundy/silver stripes and around the windows.  Tons of prep
>> work, many late nights masking stripes and N-Numbers, but great to see it
>> all finished.  It turned out great - I'm very pleased.  Its now out of my
>> home shop, and at my hangar at KORH (Worcester, MA), which is ~20min drive
>> away.  Its a bit tougher to work on it out there instead of my basement shop
>> so it might go a little slower...I'm on the home stretch now, though!
>> 
>> Geoff
>> http://thegerhardts.com/velocity
>> 
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> Date: Sun, 2 Oct 2011 23:25:36 -0400
> From: "Lou Stedman" <stedmanlou at roadrunner.com>
> Subject: REFLECTOR: Fw: [c-a] crash at RR
> To: "Velocity Reflector" <reflector at tvbf.org>
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> From: DON JONES 
> Sent: Sunday, October 02, 2011 10:07 PM
> To: canard-aviators 
> Subject: [c-a] crash at RR
> 
> 
> 
> I've been helping the NTSB and FAA with their investigation of the crash at RR. I'm trying to establish if the pilot of the Glassair was making radio calls during his takeoff and short flight until the crash. I've pulled the following N numbers from my photo files of the first few planes to land just after the crash. Please e-mail me if you heard anything over the radio from pilot, either yes or no and what you remember him transmitted if anything. Thanks in advance for helping. Please forward this e-mail to the Cozy and Velocity list.
> 
> Don Jones
> Berkut FG
> 
> 
> N321VE     Velocity
> 
> N103MH     LongEze
> 
> N25KF       Race 99
> 
> N271J         LongEze
> 
> N197DL     COZY MK 4
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