REFLECTOR: vernatherm

Brian Michalk michalk at awpi.com
Thu Nov 17 10:46:58 CST 2011


If you can get your CHT's down, your oil temp will come down.  Try easy 
things first.  If your mag is set at 28, then on your next takeoff, 
while over a suitable field, turn off the Lightspeed.  See if your CHT's 
and oil temp goes down, and if you can maintain a sustained climb.  Make 
sure your bottom plugs are oil free before flight.

I have used a timing light on my Franklin with the wings removed, and 
it's scary.  Other than that, I don't know how it could be done, except 
maybe from the bottom side.

Be careful with going the no bypass route.  It's there to prevent 
bursting the oil filter and cooler.  I will check to see if I have any 
of the stiffer PZL springs.  I think they cost less than $10.

Are you running the older diaphragm fuel pump, or the newer vane pump?  
Is that hose used for lubricating the new vane fuel pump?  I don't have 
either on my engine, and it's been a while since I was in the business.  
I'm running a gear pump at 45PSI.

On 11/17/2011 10:28 AM, Grover McNair wrote:
>
> Brian,
>
> The CHTs are higher than I would like. On climb out I cannot run full 
> power very long at all. I barely get to 1000" agl before the CHTs get 
> up to 390F. If I level off and keep the rpm around 2500, these temps 
> will stabilize.  The oil temp continues to rise though.
>
> My engine has a mag for the top plugs and a Lightspeed ignition for 
> the bottom plugs. The mag is timed at 28 degrees. With the light speed 
> system I am not sure about the amount of advance. After speaking with 
> Lightspeed they recommended putting a timing light on the engine to 
> determine where it is firing. I don't know how to do this safely. Any 
> ideas?
>
> The Franklin bypass valve looks very restrictive internally. My 
> thought was to modify it to make all of the oil flow to the oil cooler 
> all of the time and have a vernatherm control the flow returning to 
> the engine. Regardless I would like to try a stiffer spring.
>
> I am changing the flexible lines from the engine to the firewall from 
> ½ to 5/8. The lines though the fuselage and to the cooler are 5/8.
>
> For oil temp, there is an adapter in the line that runs from the 
> bypass valve to the rear engine casing.
>
> Thanks for giving this some thought. I look forward to hearing more.
>
> Grover
>
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> *From:*reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] 
> *On Behalf Of *Brian Michalk
> *Sent:* Wednesday, November 16, 2011 4:31 PM
> *To:* Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
> *Subject:* Re: REFLECTOR: vernatherm
>
> Do you have high CHTs as well?
> If you are aggressive on your timing, retard it to 28BTDC, and see if 
> your temps go down.
>
> I don't think adding a vernatherm is going to help you.  The Franklin 
> has a pressure bypass, and with hot oil, all of it should be going 
> through the cooler.  You can try a stiffer spring on the bypass if you 
> are not getting max oil through the cooler.  I think I still have 
> some, if you want one.
>
> Most everyone I know is running 5/8" lines to the cooler(s).  What 
> size are yours?  Also, where are you measuring your oil temps?  245F 
> is too high, and it means that in some portion of your system it's hotter.
>
> On 11/16/2011 2:32 PM, Grover McNair wrote:
>
> The franklin engine I have in my 173LW  is running high oil temp, 
> 245+. Having read recent posts, I am planning to install a larger oil 
> cooler with a vernatherm. I would appreciate comments from those who 
> have done this. Is there a modification necessary for the factory oil 
> bypass valve?
>
> Grover McNair
>
> N832AB
>
>
>
>
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