REFLECTOR: Standard edition wheel pants

Dave T Nelson dtnelson at us.ibm.com
Thu Nov 17 10:04:14 CST 2011


For what it's worth, I've got a brand new unfinished pair of original
"clown feet" wheel pants that I'll give free to a good home (you pay
shipping).  First email to me wins...

Dave

Dave T. Nelson
T/L 553-4327, Voice 507-253-4327, Fax 507-253-3648
Program Director, ISC ECAT NPI & Test Engineering


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  |reflector-bounces at tvbf.org                                                                                                                        |
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   4. Re:  vernatherm (Grover McNair)


----- Message from "Velocity" <VelocityXL at fastmail.fm> on Thu, 17 Nov 2011
07:55:24 -0600 -----
                                                            
      To: "Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list"      
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 Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Standard edition wheel pants       
                                                            


Nice looking pants. Wish mine came out that nice looking.
Something you might consider is to add vents to the top of the pants to let
the
heat out. I do not know first hand but was told by a couple of long easy
guys it helps a lot in keeping the wheels cool.

Ron
 ----- Original Message -----
 From: nmflyer1 at aol.com
 To: reflector at tvbf.org
 Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 11:35 PM
 Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Standard edition wheel pants

 Andy,

 I asked someone at the factory that very question. I have the Old style
 ones and thought it was worth asking. I was told that they are all about
 the same as far as speed goes. I think the newer ones may be a little more
 user friendly to remove/re install.

 Since there was really no advantage to buying new ones, I just redesigned
 my old style ones.


 Here are some pics of what I did:

 http://tinypic.com/r/1zmp3k3/5

 http://tinypic.com/r/153061e/5

 http://tinypic.com/r/2w1xgft/5

 Kurt


 -----Original Message-----
 From: Andrew Judge <ajudge at grovenetworks.com>
 To: 'reflector at tvbf.org' <reflector at tvbf.org>
 Sent: Wed, Nov 16, 2011 4:22 pm
 Subject: REFLECTOR: Standard edition wheel pants

 Does anyone know if there are improved wheel pants (more aerodynamic) for
 the
 standards out there? I've seen the XL ones.

 If so, how many knots did you gain?

 Andy
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----- Message from Mark Magee <edjonesbrady at gmail.com> on Thu, 17 Nov 2011
08:23:48 -0600 -----
                                                           
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 Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Standard edition wheel pants      
                                                           


Hi Renee,
That is very interesting. If you have any links on what you saw would you
mind forwarding them?
Thanks

Mark B. Magee
Sent from IPhone

On Nov 17, 2011, at 7:35 AM, Dugas Bellsouth <dugasd at bellsouth.net> wrote:


      I've been told the newest Vans RV covers gain 7 knots
      Over old ones. Lots of Vans RV experimenters out there with similar
      speeds almost.
      Rene' Dugas
      Sent from my iPhone4

      On Nov 17, 2011, at 6:18 AM, Mark Magee <edjonesbrady at gmail.com>
      wrote:

            Kurt,
            Those look fantastic. How big a project was this? Seems as if
            this was fairly extensive on glasswork.
            I'm as we'll looking for a better look. My research on speed
            same as yours: all shapes about the same in drag
            reduction/speed gains.

            Mark B. Magee
            XLFG N34XL 300 HP
            Brady TX

            Sent from IPhone

            On Nov 16, 2011, at 11:35 PM, nmflyer1 at aol.com wrote:

                  Andy,

                  I asked someone at the factory that very question. I have
                  the Old style ones and thought it was worth asking. I was
                  told that they are all about the same as far as speed
                  goes. I think the newer ones may be a little more user
                  friendly to remove/re install.

                  Since there was really no advantage to buying new ones, I
                  just redesigned my old style ones.


                  Here are some pics of what I did:

                  http://tinypic.com/r/1zmp3k3/5

                  http://tinypic.com/r/153061e/5

                  http://tinypic.com/r/2w1xgft/5

                  Kurt


                  -----Original Message-----
                  From: Andrew Judge <ajudge at grovenetworks.com>
                  To: 'reflector at tvbf.org' <reflector at tvbf.org>
                  Sent: Wed, Nov 16, 2011 4:22 pm
                  Subject: REFLECTOR: Standard edition wheel pants

                  Does anyone know if there are improved wheel pants (more
                  aerodynamic) for the
                  standards out there? I've seen the XL ones.

                  If so, how many knots did you gain?

                  Andy
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----- Message from <aminetech at bluefrog.com> on Thu, 17 Nov 2011 07:12:19
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          <reflector at tvbf.org>                              
                                                            
 Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Engine air intake                  
                                                            


I've noticed my MAP is 1-2" higher during climb out compared to after I
level off.  My inlet air scoop is under the belly.  I figure at high AOA
there is more pressure underneath.  And perhaps the scoop is a bit in the
boundary layer during cruise.  I'm curious about your findings.

John

--- gansehaut at yahoo.com wrote:

From: Kathy Cook <gansehaut at yahoo.com>
To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list <reflector at tvbf.org>
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Engine air intake
Date: Wed, 16 Nov 2011 19:48:21 -0800 (PST)
                                                                                                                                                      
 Kerry, I ran across your email and here's my 2 cents worth:  I have a standard SE IO360 and after some experimentation, have settled on a air intake 
 system that gives me about 1/2" of positive pressure at 140 knots and at 185 knots TAS 3/4" of boost.  This pressure is measured down stream of the  
 air filter (KandN) just prior to the air entering the fuel servo.  If you are interested in some of my findings, feel free to call or email me.      
 Lynn Cook 530-878-2002                                                                                                                               
 --- On Mon, 9/19/11, Kerry Woods <kwoods241 at att.net> wrote:                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                                      
  From: Kerry Woods <kwoods241 at att.net>                                                                                                               
  Subject: REFLECTOR: Engine air intake                                                                                                               
  To: "Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list" reflector at tvbf.org                                                                                 
  Date: Monday, September 19, 2011, 6:17 AM                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                                      
  There has not been any mention of what works best for intake air. If someone has found a good way to pressurize the intake would they share what    
  they have done.                                                                                                                                     
  Thank You                                                                                                                                           
  Kerry                                                                                                                                               
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----- Message from "Grover McNair" <grover at mcnairperformance.com> on Thu,
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 Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: vernatherm                          
                                                             


The old oil cooler is a Niagra 2006H and measures approximately 6x8x3”. The
new cooler will be a Positech P2008C which measures 8x8.63x3.62”.
Thanks for the response.
Grover


From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] On
Behalf Of Kevin Baker
Sent: Wednesday, November 16, 2011 3:55 PM
To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
Cc: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: vernatherm

Which cooler are you going to and from which cooler?

Thanks
Kevin

.

On Nov 16, 2011, at 14:32, "Grover McNair" <grover at mcnairperformance.com>
wrote:
      The franklin engine I have in my 173LW  is running high oil temp, 245
      +. Having read recent posts, I am planning to install a larger oil
      cooler with a vernatherm. I would appreciate comments from those who
      have done this. Is there a modification necessary for the factory oil
      bypass valve?
      Grover McNair
      N832AB
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