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rty minutes after landing.
The engine will turn to it's first compression stroke then stop. After thre=
e or four try's I'll just have to
wait thirty minutes, then the engine will turnover and start within one or =
two power stroke/s.
This is annoying if you just want to make a quick fuel stop.=20
I have replaced the Concord 35x with an Odyssey PC1200MJT 40AH battery 1200=
Amp. starting current
with the same result.=C2=A0 I have placed another Odyssey 960 battery behin=
d the rear left seat, and wired it
so it parallels the front battery when the starter is engaged, still same p=
roblem. A year or so ago, some
one on the reflector suggested replacing the starter with a ford part numbe=
r. I did that, still same problem.
The plane was originally wired with #2 wire, all connectors were power crim=
ped, the connectors to and
from the contractors are cleaned, treated and re tightened at each annual. =
I realize that the Franklin has
10.5:1 compression and when hot, can actually be slightly more, but my BMW =
M5 engine is also 10.5:1
compression and the same battery spins the engine very fast hot or cold. Co=
uld the problem be that the
starter is being heat soaked, which reduces it's efficiency?=C2=A0 Is anyon=
e else experiencing this problem?
BTW:=C2=A0 I tried a Skytek starter which broke on the first start. it went=
into the garbage.=20
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Mike W.
1997 Velocity Elite RG
Franklin /IVO Electric CS
Dual GRT EFIS HX Synthetic Vision
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<table cellspacing=3D"0" cellpadding=3D"0" border=3D"0" ><tr><td valign=3D"=
top" style=3D"font: inherit;"><DIV>Hi Mike, </DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV> Just go ahead and install that BMW=
starter - you know you want to !</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Best Regards,</DIV>
<DIV> </DIV>
<DIV>Jeff Barnes</DIV>
<DIV>847-331-2567 <BR><BR>--- On <B>Wed, 5/18/11, Michael Watson <I>&l=
t;mikewatsspg at gmail.com></I></B> wrote:<BR></DIV>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: rgb(16,16,255) 2px solid; PADDING-LEFT: 5=
px; MARGIN-LEFT: 5px"><BR>From: Michael Watson <mikewatsspg at gmail.com>=
;<BR>Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Franklin Will not turnover when hot<BR>To: "Ve=
locity Aircraft Owners and Builders list" <reflector at tvbf.org><BR>Dat=
e: Wednesday, May 18, 2011, 5:57 PM<BR><BR>
<DIV id=3Dyiv1772433704>John T.<BR><BR>It was a skytek F12ST1, I don't thin=
k they carry it anymore.<BR>#2 wire goes directly from the negative battery=
terminal to a large engine bolt right<BR>below the starter mount.<BR><BR><=
BR><BR>
<DIV class=3Dyiv1772433704gmail_quote>On Wed, May 18, 2011 at 6:38 PM, John=
Tvedte <SPAN dir=3Dltr><<A href=3D"http://us.mc1801.mail.yahoo.com/mc/c=
ompose?to=3Djohnt at comp-sol.com" rel=3Dnofollow target=3D_blank ymailto=3D"m=
ailto:johnt at comp-sol.com">johnt at comp-sol.com</A>></SPAN> wrote:<BR>
<BLOCKQUOTE style=3D"BORDER-LEFT: #ccc 1px solid; MARGIN: 0px 0px 0px 0.8ex=
; PADDING-LEFT: 1ex" class=3Dyiv1772433704gmail_quote>
<DIV lang=3DEN-US>
<DIV>
<P class=3Dyiv1772433704MsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE:=
11pt">Mike,</SPAN></DIV>
<P class=3Dyiv1772433704MsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE:=
11pt"> </SPAN></DIV>
<P class=3Dyiv1772433704MsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE:=
11pt">Curious what version of the skytec starter you tried?</SPAN></DIV>
<P class=3Dyiv1772433704MsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE:=
11pt"> </SPAN></DIV>
<P class=3Dyiv1772433704MsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE:=
11pt">What about the engine ground =E2=80=93 where is that located? =
Is that #2 wire as well?</SPAN></DIV>
<P class=3Dyiv1772433704MsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE:=
11pt"> </SPAN></DIV>
<P class=3Dyiv1772433704MsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE:=
11pt">John T</SPAN></DIV>
<P class=3Dyiv1772433704MsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE:=
11pt">XL FG IO-540</SPAN></DIV>
<P class=3Dyiv1772433704MsoNormal><SPAN style=3D"COLOR: #1f497d; FONT-SIZE:=
11pt"> </SPAN></DIV>
<P class=3Dyiv1772433704MsoNormal><B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt">From:<=
/SPAN></B><SPAN style=3D"FONT-SIZE: 10pt"> <A href=3D"http://us.mc1801.mail=
.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=3Dreflector-bounces at tvbf.org" rel=3Dnofollow targe=
t=3D_blank ymailto=3D"mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org">reflector-bounces@=
tvbf.org</A> [mailto:<A href=3D"http://us.mc1801.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?=
to=3Dreflector-bounces at tvbf.org" rel=3Dnofollow target=3D_blank ymailto=3D"=
mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org">reflector-bounces at tvbf.org</A>] <B>On Be=
half Of </B>Michael Watson<BR><B>Sent:</B> Wednesday, May 18, 2011 3:39 PM<=
BR><B>To:</B> Reflector</SPAN></DIV>
<DIV class=3Dyiv1772433704im><BR><B>Subject:</B> REFLECTOR: Franklin Will n=
ot turnover when hot</DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<P class=3Dyiv1772433704MsoNormal> </DIV>
<P class=3Dyiv1772433704MsoNormal>To all Franklin powered Velocity owners.<=
/DIV>
<DIV>
<DIV></DIV>
<DIV class=3Dyiv1772433704h5><BR><BR>From new, I have always had a problem =
starting the engine within ten to thirty minutes after landing.<BR>The engi=
ne will turn to it's first compression stroke then stop. After three or fou=
r try's I'll just have to<BR>wait thirty minutes, then the engine will turn=
over and start within one or two power stroke/s.<BR>This is annoying if you=
just want to make a quick fuel stop. <BR clear=3Dall><BR>I have replaced t=
he Concord 35x with an Odyssey PC1200MJT 40AH battery 1200 Amp. starting cu=
rrent<BR>with the same result. I have placed another Odyssey 960 batt=
ery behind the rear left seat, and wired it<BR>so it parallels the front ba=
ttery when the starter is engaged, still same problem. A year or so ago, so=
me<BR>one on the reflector suggested replacing the starter with a ford part=
number. I did that, still same problem.<BR><BR>The plane was originally wi=
red with #2 wire, all connectors were power crimped, the connectors to
and<BR>from the contractors are cleaned, treated and re tightened at each =
annual. I realize that the Franklin has<BR>10.5:1 compression and when hot,=
can actually be slightly more, but my BMW M5 engine is also 10.5:1<BR>comp=
ression and the same battery spins the engine very fast hot or cold. Could =
the problem be that the<BR>starter is being heat soaked, which reduces it's=
efficiency? Is anyone else experiencing this problem?<BR><BR>BTW:&nb=
sp; I tried a Skytek starter which broke on the first start. it went into t=
he garbage. <BR>-- <BR>Mike W.<BR>1997 Velocity Elite RG<BR>Franklin /IVO E=
lectric CS<BR>Dual GRT EFIS HX Synthetic Vision</DIV></DIV>
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