REFLECTOR: Unbalanced fuel flow in flight

Thu Mar 17 18:22:55 CDT 2011

Great. Thanks,

Rene'

From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] On
Behalf Of Jeff Howell
Sent: Wednesday, March 16, 2011 9:28 AM
To: reflector at tvbf.org
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Unbalanced fuel flow in flight

on my plane I have 2 stops the backing angle is approx 2" in length. I put
my stops in locations where it distributes the load evenly. there are 3
hinges on the on the rudder, I placed mine between the top and middle & the
bottom and middle hinges. If I only adjust one you can see that the other is
not making full contact. I did not want any distortion on mine. if you want
pics let me know for mine were an after thought and are very easy to make
and install...thanx Jeff

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From: lwcoen at hotmail.com
To: reflector at tvbf.org
Date: Tue, 15 Mar 2011 16:53:27 -0500
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Unbalanced fuel flow in flight

Rene,

Just the one stop.  I have detected no damage or denting of any kind to
date.  When the rudder is against the stop, there is very little air load.
When the rudder slams against the stop the force is a function of the
inertia of the rudder which is a light weight structure.  My rigging hasn't
changed in 100 hours.

Larry Coen

N136LC

From: Rene Dugas <mailto:dugasd at bellsouth.net>  

Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 6:15 PM

To: 'Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list' <mailto:reflector at tvbf.org>

Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Unbalanced fuel flow in flight

Good idea.  It seems to be a lot of pressure on a small area.  Do you have
them at several points up the winglet?  If these are at the base as it
appears (the spring) then is there another near the top of the rudder?  If
not I would think as air load increases the upper rudder would warp and
cause less effect which may be the desired effect.  Just asking.  I have two
three inch platforms for the rudder to slam against.  One at the spring and
one across from the top hinge.  Still may not be enough if I punch the
rudder or if the wind slams the rudders over as occasionally happens.

Rene'

From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] On
Behalf Of Laurence Coen
Sent: Monday, March 14, 2011 1:01 PM
To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Unbalanced fuel flow in flight

Richard,

I made my permanent fix before my first flight by installing adjustable
rudder stops.  The attached fuzzy phone photos should give you an idea of
how simple it was.  The screw mount and stop in the rudder root are 3/8"
aluminum "U" channel.  The screw is a 8-32 stainless Allen head screwed into
a nut plate.  Each turn = one mixing stick.  The "U" channel is pop riveted
in place and sitting on a pad of stir stick/micro to transfer load to the
rudder root and winglet root. IMHO it beats the heck out of gluing in shims
and it took me less than an hour to make and install them.  I was all smiles
when it came time to tweak my rudders.

Larry Coen

N136LC

From: Richard J. Gentil <mailto:richard at naples-air-center.com>  

Sent: Sunday, March 13, 2011 9:37 AM

To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list <mailto:reflector at tvbf.org>  

Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Unbalanced fuel flow in flight

I was circling over the field and I did change directions in the circle
expecting the left tank to burn fuel while it was the high wing. It did not
seem to happen. 

Fuel cap is air tight on both sides. Recently verified by pressurizing the
system and leaving an airspeed indicator connected for several days. 

The ball is slightly out to the left. I hesitate to do a permanent fix till
I get to the gear up and normal cruise test. 

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I will conduct the string test next flight.  

Probably use some tongue depressors and five minute to set the yaw till I
start flying with the gear up and set it permanently. 

Richard

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On Mar 13, 2011, at 9:47 AM, John Abraham <jabraham03 at gmail.com> wrote:

Richard,

To add to Jerry and Scott, dont rely on your ball in the aircraft to be
correct.  Tape a 6-12" string at the base of the wind screen (outside of
aircraft) and you will be able to determine rigging better.  This will
account for any panel installation errors.  I have experienced 10 gallons
out of one tank before the other has moved.  Try to go for a flight long
enough to burn off half a tank.  Be sure you change directions for circling
too! That will affect feeding if you always make left turns, it will not let
the left side feed as well.

John

On Sun, Mar 13, 2011 at 8:27 AM, Richard J. Gentil
<richard at naples-air-center.com> wrote:

Friday I completed my second test flight.  I found that all the fuel drained
from the right side and none from the left while on the one hour flight. (I
actually cut the flight short due to this.)

When I landed I verified with my fuel stick that all the fuel did co e from
the right tank.

For troubleshooting:

1) I removed the line from the left tank to the sump tank and verified that
fuel did flow freely from the left tank.

2) Removed the vent line from the left tank and tested the line in the
direction of the left tank and in the direction to the vent/overflow block
at the top of my firewall using compressed air.

3) I checked the check valve for the air for correct operation in both
directions and verified it was installed in the correct direction for air to
enter and that fuel would not vent into the cabin.

4) Verified the overflow line was clear by using compressed air.

I know the picture is hard to follow but this is the fuel system:

Richard

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