REFLECTOR: empty w&b elite FG 173/lw

Kevin Baker flykb at verizon.net
Sat Dec 17 18:08:31 CST 2011


Hi Chris
Ahhh  nope no FAA here
I've just had to jump FAA hurdles with changing my test area 
Gotta luv it

Kevin Baker
N164PS


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On Dec 17, 2011, at 17:59, Chris Barber <cbarber at texasattorney.net> wrote:

> If you are from the FAA it is likely 179.....maybe 199. I understand in certain worlds with street ported turbos, 220 plus is not a stretch. Of course if my weight issue is any indication, mine would never get near that. Sigh. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 4
> 
> On Dec 17, 2011, at 5:48 PM, "Kevin Baker" <flykb at verizon.net> wrote:
> 
>> Yea but how much hp will you get out of the rotary?
>> 
>> I thought over 200 hp
>> That'll make a good performance diff
>> 
>> .
>> 
>> On Dec 17, 2011, at 17:25, Chris Barber <cbarber at texasattorney.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> I am not sure of last calibration as the are borrowed. I did zero them out and weighed more than once.
>>> 
>>> Ok. Here is my raw number. 1645 lbs. Hell. That's a whole nuther engine. 
>>> 
>>> Right rear = 799
>>> Left rear = 798
>>> Front = 48
>>> 
>>> I am beside myself, but plugging on. Just filled the sump with four gallons to fill.
>>> 
>>> I am consciously rethinking every step over the last 9.5 years and at a loss. 100, 150 lbs maybe, but 350!!!!!!??????!!!!!  I wouldn't had believed I could be thi friggin incompetent. 
>>> 
>>> Oh, fyi, this is a fixed gear. 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone 4
>>> 
>>> On Dec 17, 2011, at 5:13 PM, "Kevin Baker" <flykb at verizon.net> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> We used a similar set
>>>> Did you zero them out before putting the plane on?
>>>> When we're they last calibrated?
>>>> 
>>>> Do you weight it more than one time ?
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks
>>>> Kevin 
>>>> 
>>>> .
>>>> 
>>>> On Dec 17, 2011, at 16:48, Chris Barber <cbarber at texasattorney.net> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> Proform electronic scales. P/N 67650. There are four heavy metal platforms with cable to a CPU with LCD display. Gives a nice read out of lbs or k and % of weight on each scale and a total of all four. The unused platform reads 0. When I stand on the forth scale it gives my individual weight (cuz I wasn't already discouraged enough) and ads that to the total of all four. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Seriously, we are not talking just a bit high. It is a lot. When the emotional impact subsides I am sure I will post it. No, I did not leave a dead body in the streaked and yes, the fuel is drained. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Chris
>>>>> Sent from my iPhone 4
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Dec 17, 2011, at 4:39 PM, "steve korney" <s_korney at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> What kind of scales .....?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Steve 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> > From: cbarber at texasattorney.net
>>>>>> > To: reflector at tvbf.org
>>>>>> > CC: reflector at tvbf.org
>>>>>> > Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 22:30:43 +0000
>>>>>> > Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: empty w&b elite FG 173/lw
>>>>>> > 
>>>>>> > Yeah, I do but not enough to explain this difference. 
>>>>>> > 
>>>>>> > Sent from my iPhone 4
>>>>>> > 
>>>>>> > On Dec 17, 2011, at 4:10 PM, "Mike Dawson" <medawson250 at yahoo.com> wrote:
>>>>>> > 
>>>>>> > > You probably have a radiator, water and cooling fan, not to mention, perhaps a load of avionics?
>>>>>> > > Just a thought.
>>>>>> > > 
>>>>>> > > Michael E Dawson
>>>>>> > > ATCI CFII
>>>>>> > > 
>>>>>> > > 
>>>>>> > > On Dec 17, 2011, at 1:55 PM, Chris Barber <cbarber at texasattorney.net> wrote:
>>>>>> > > 
>>>>>> > >> Is the factory empty weight on the SE with a 320 or a 360? I just weighed my project and I may have the heaviest ever built :-(. So much I am currently embarrassed to post my numbers. I am using a rotary which is supposed to be comparable to a 360. I also have a turbo and A/C which easily explains part of the weight above the standard 1300 lbs but not by any means all. Yikes. 
>>>>>> > >> 
>>>>>> > >> Chris 
>>>>>> > >> 
>>>>>> > >> Sent from my iPhone 4
>>>>>> > >> 
>>>>>> > >> On Dec 14, 2011, at 9:25 PM, "Laurence Coen" <lwcoen at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> > >> 
>>>>>> > >>> SERG Franklin/IVO with paint and interior.
>>>>>> > >>> Empty Weight = 1391 lbs
>>>>>> > >>> CG = 126.9
>>>>>> > >>> 
>>>>>> > >>> Larry Coen
>>>>>> > >>> N136LC
>>>>>> > >>> 
>>>>>> > >>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>>> > >>> From: "Kevin Baker" <flykb at verizon.net>
>>>>>> > >>> Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 2:00 PM
>>>>>> > >>> To: "Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list" <reflector at tvbf.org>
>>>>>> > >>> Cc: <reflector at tvbf.org>
>>>>>> > >>> Subject: REFLECTOR: empty w&b elite FG 173/lw
>>>>>> > >>> 
>>>>>> > >>>> Hi all,
>>>>>> > >>>> I was wondering what others are seeing as far as for a Velocity 173/LW Elite FG io-360 catto
>>>>>> > >>>> Empty weight and empty cg
>>>>>> > >>>> 
>>>>>> > >>>> Wanted to compare to mine as I just recently did a w&b and cg check.
>>>>>> > >>>> 
>>>>>> > >>>> Thanks
>>>>>> > >>>> Kevin Baker
>>>>>> > >>>> N164PS
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