REFLECTOR: empty w&b elite FG 173/lw

Sat Dec 17 18:04:03 CST 2011

How much does the aircon system weigh?

From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] On
Behalf Of Chris Barber
Sent: Saturday, December 17, 2011 5:47 PM
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Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: empty w&b elite FG 173/lw

Nope. No soundproofing. 

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On Dec 17, 2011, at 5:45 PM, "Andrew Judge" <ajudge at grovenetworks.com>
wrote:

Did you install the sounds proofing? If so, rip it out. It's heavy. 

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From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org <reflector-bounces at tvbf.org> 
To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list <reflector at tvbf.org> 
Cc: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list <reflector at tvbf.org> 
Sent: Sat Dec 17 18:25:24 2011
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: empty w&b elite FG 173/lw 

I am not sure of last calibration as the are borrowed. I did zero them out
and weighed more than once.

Ok. Here is my raw number. 1645 lbs. Hell. That's a whole nuther engine. 

Right rear = 799

Left rear = 798

Front = 48

I am beside myself, but plugging on. Just filled the sump with four gallons
to fill.

I am consciously rethinking every step over the last 9.5 years and at a
loss. 100, 150 lbs maybe, but 350!!!!!!??????!!!!!  I wouldn't had believed
I could be thi friggin incompetent. 

Oh, fyi, this is a fixed gear. 

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On Dec 17, 2011, at 5:13 PM, "Kevin Baker" <flykb at verizon.net> wrote:

We used a similar set

Did you zero them out before putting the plane on?

When we're they last calibrated?

Do you weight it more than one time ?

Thanks

Kevin 

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On Dec 17, 2011, at 16:48, Chris Barber <cbarber at texasattorney.net> wrote:

Proform electronic scales. P/N 67650. There are four heavy metal platforms
with cable to a CPU with LCD display. Gives a nice read out of lbs or k and
% of weight on each scale and a total of all four. The unused platform reads
0. When I stand on the forth scale it gives my individual weight (cuz I
wasn't already discouraged enough) and ads that to the total of all four. 

Seriously, we are not talking just a bit high. It is a lot. When the
emotional impact subsides I am sure I will post it. No, I did not leave a
dead body in the streaked and yes, the fuel is drained. 

Chris
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On Dec 17, 2011, at 4:39 PM, "steve korney" <s_korney at hotmail.com> wrote:

What kind of scales .....?

Steve 

> From: cbarber at texasattorney.net
> To: reflector at tvbf.org
> CC: reflector at tvbf.org
> Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2011 22:30:43 +0000
> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: empty w&b elite FG 173/lw
> 
> Yeah, I do but not enough to explain this difference. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone 4
> 
> On Dec 17, 2011, at 4:10 PM, "Mike Dawson" <medawson250 at yahoo.com> wrote:
> 
> > You probably have a radiator, water and cooling fan, not to mention,
perhaps a load of avionics?
> > Just a thought.
> > 
> > Michael E Dawson
> > ATCI CFII
> > 
> > 
> > On Dec 17, 2011, at 1:55 PM, Chris Barber <cbarber at texasattorney.net>
wrote:
> > 
> >> Is the factory empty weight on the SE with a 320 or a 360? I just
weighed my project and I may have the heaviest ever built :-(. So much I am
currently embarrassed to post my numbers. I am using a rotary which is
supposed to be comparable to a 360. I also have a turbo and A/C which easily
explains part of the weight above the standard 1300 lbs but not by any means
all. Yikes. 
> >> 
> >> Chris 
> >> 
> >> Sent from my iPhone 4
> >> 
> >> On Dec 14, 2011, at 9:25 PM, "Laurence Coen" <lwcoen at hotmail.com>
wrote:
> >> 
> >>> SERG Franklin/IVO with paint and interior.
> >>> Empty Weight = 1391 lbs
> >>> CG = 126.9
> >>> 
> >>> Larry Coen
> >>> N136LC
> >>> 
> >>> --------------------------------------------------
> >>> From: "Kevin Baker" <flykb at verizon.net>
> >>> Sent: Tuesday, December 13, 2011 2:00 PM
> >>> To: "Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list" <reflector at tvbf.org>
> >>> Cc: <reflector at tvbf.org>
> >>> Subject: REFLECTOR: empty w&b elite FG 173/lw
> >>> 
> >>>> Hi all,
> >>>> I was wondering what others are seeing as far as for a Velocity
173/LW Elite FG io-360 catto
> >>>> Empty weight and empty cg
> >>>> 
> >>>> Wanted to compare to mine as I just recently did a w&b and cg check.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Thanks
> >>>> Kevin Baker
> >>>> N164PS
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