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Mon Nov 1 15:18:15 CDT 2010


O2 sensor and then the ECM can only run the pre-mapped mode.  Hope I am
incorrect on this.


Jerry Brainard
Jerry at JLBEnt.com


   	-------Original Message-------
From: Andy Millin
To: 'Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list'
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Auto engine installed 172
Sent: Nov 10 '10 9:46am


Hey Bob,


I’m sure he is a nice guy and he is doing good work.  I am leery of anyone
that claims their engine will use half the fuel.  I have yet to see an auto
conversion that has a better BSFC than an aircraft engine.  Especially when
an electronic ignition is added and an EIS is used to run LOP.


I know you have to toot your own horn for marketing, but…  it would be nice
to see a new engine developer under promise and over deliver (or just
deliver).


I do wish him the best of luck.


Andy


FROM: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] ON
BEHALF OF Bob Jackson
SENT: 11-09-2010 9:01
TO: 'Velocity'; 'Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list'
SUBJECT: Re: REFLECTOR: Auto engine installed 172


Al Aden and his Quiet Aviation company are located at the Orlando Apopka
airport, just a few hangars away from us.  Al's a good guy, knows what he's
doing, and I believe he will have his STC approved for this engine on
C172's by next summer.


Bob Jackson

N2XF

Orlando Apopka Airport (X04)


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FROM: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] ON
BEHALF OF Velocity
SENT: Tuesday, November 09, 2010 5:23 PM
TO: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
SUBJECT: REFLECTOR: Auto engine installed 172


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<DIV>One other area of concern.&nbsp; I read that they are using the Oxygen sensor.&nbsp; From what I have read that means NO Avgas.&nbsp; The lead in the 100LL fouls the&nbsp;O2 sensor and&nbsp;then the ECM can only run the pre-mapped mode.&nbsp; Hope I am incorrect on this.&nbsp;</DIV>
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<TD>-------Original Message-------<BR>From: Andy Millin <AMILLIN at SBCGLOBAL.NET><BR>To: 'Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list' <REFLECTOR at TVBF.ORG><BR>Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Auto engine installed 172<BR>Sent: Nov 10 '10 9:46am<BR><BR>
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<P class="MsoNormal"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: ; FONT-SIZE: 11pt" _mce_style='font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: #1f497d;' color:#1F497D? Calibri?,?sans-serif?;><o:p>&nbsp;</o:p></SPAN></P>
<P class="MsoNormal"><SPAN style="FONT-FAMILY: ; FONT-SIZE: 11pt" _mce_style='font-size: 11.0pt; font-family: "Calibri","sans-serif"; color: #1f497d;' color:#1F497D? Calibri?,?sans-serif?;>I know you have to toot your own horn for marketing, but…&nbsp; it would be nice to see a new engine developer under promise and over deliver (or just deliver).<o:p></o:p></SPAN></P>
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