REFLECTOR: Fire Extinguisher

[Dave]

Ok.. some things to keep in mind.. this is a marketing video promoting 
the product.

First off.. how common are upholstery fires in aircraft? Yea.. they aren't.
Class A - Textile and wood - are very rare in our setting.
Class B Flammable liquids and Class C electrical are much more common.

The dry chem extinguisher works on all 3 major types (and there are dry 
chem extinguishers avail for Class D - burning metals such as 
sodium/magnesium/phosphorus). and you also noticed the standoff distance 
that the dry chem extinguisher gives you - up to 10 feet.. The fireade 
foam canister requires you getting up close. For anything larger than a 
trashcan you are likely going to feel the heat and get superficial 
burns. Same thing with liquid fires.. Especially with Jet A or diesel.. 
they burn hot.. very hot.. and if you aren't wearing protective gear you 
are going to be hard pressed to get in close enough and STAY in close 
enough to put this foam on a burning liquid in an adequate manner.

Applying a liquid foam to energized electrical fires is likely not a 
very smart move.

Had this foam device had greater standoff and better blanketing (spray 
rather than stream) it might get a BIT better in my eyes, but I've used 
Dry Chem many times in my life - as a firefighter and civilian, and put 
out fully involved engine compartment fires (cars) with a single 
extinguisher and good technique.

My advice to you guys is to contact your local fire dept and ask if they 
have any sort of fire extinguisher demo program that they can conduct 
that you can attend. It will improve your confidence in managing fires 
and see what you really need as well as what you really can handle. The 
average Kiddie 1 quart you can buy at Home Depot can put out 10 square 
feet of burning liquid if used right.

Dave

Alex Balic wrote:
>
> Here is another one showing the ability of the small extinguisher to 
> shut down a fairly good size chair fire- I will be getting one of 
> these extinguishers for sure- thanks for the info Andy…..
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbejAE5Q12E&feature=related 
> <http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lbejAE5Q12E&feature=related>
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> *From:* reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] 
> *On Behalf Of *Andy Millin
> *Sent:* Friday, June 26, 2009 2:35 PM
> *To:* 'Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list'
> *Subject:* REFLECTOR: Fire Extinguisher
>
> I had posted this information a couple years ago.
>
> I saw a demonstration of a different type of fire extinguisher years 
> ago. It was called FireAde 2000. I don’t’ sell the stuff.
>
> In the demo the guy dumped gasoline in a wash tub and lit it. He 
> extinguished the fire with his stuff. Then he stepped into the tub and 
> took a propane torch and tried to re-light it while still standing in 
> it. It would not light. When sprayed on a fire, it emulsifies and 
> prevents combustion. It also cools as it hits so it helps to bring 
> temps below flash temps.
>
> With the advent of YouTube, there are several demonstration videos.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPkmIwZBhMQ
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=843WcqiS0eM (not in English, but you 
> will get the point)
>
> More can be found.
>
> This is what I will be carrying on my plane.
>
> Here is one site that sells it: http://www.firesupplydepot.com/
>
> Andy
>
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>
> Andy Millin
>
> amillin at sbcglobal.net
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