REFLECTOR: Fire Extinguisher

[Andy Millin]

Thanks Larry.  I love the way you answer questions.  :) 

 

We are all glad you are on the reflector!

 

Andy

 

From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] On
Behalf Of Laurence Coen
Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 5:36 PM
To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Fire Extinguisher

 

Andy,

 

Halon sort of works like that but not quite.  It suppresses the chemical
reaction known as combustion.  It is non toxic and you would have to release
enough to completely displace the air in the cabin to put you in jeopardy.
The bigger hazard would noxious fumes from the fire for which you would vent
the cabin.  One lung full of Halon is no worse that snorting a helium
balloon so you can imitate Donald Duck.  Not that you ever would:<).

 

Larry Coen

N136LC

 

From: Andy <mailto:amillin at sbcglobal.net>  Millin 

Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 4:07 PM

To: 'Velocity <mailto:reflector at tvbf.org>  Aircraft Owners and Builders
list' 

Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Fire Extinguisher

 

Hey Larry,

 

You are ABSOLUTELY correct.

 

Probably shooting myself in the foot here . but . I have heard of a couple
Velocity fires.  None of them were electrical fires.  I don't believe a
halon system would have extinguished any of the known Velocity fires.  Knock
on wood AND fiberglass!

 

My understanding of Halon is that it sucks the O2 out of the air.  Spraying
that in a closed cockpit might put out the fire and the pilot?

 

Andy

 

 

From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] On
Behalf Of Laurence Coen
Sent: 06-26-2009 5:00
To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Fire Extinguisher

 

Andy,

 

This kind of extinguisher would be a better choice in Dave's situation but
it clearly states that it is not for class C fires which are electrical
fires.  Imagine having an electrical fire behind the panel and spraying fire
retardant goo all over your expensive avionics with the possibility of
leaving you with no avionics operating at all.  That's why Halon is the
choice for in the cockpit.  It will put out a small electrical fire without
hurting anything else.

 

Larry Coen

N136LC

 

From: Andy Millin <mailto:amillin at sbcglobal.net>  

Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 2:35 PM

To: 'Velocity <mailto:reflector at tvbf.org>  Aircraft Owners and Builders
list' 

Subject: REFLECTOR: Fire Extinguisher

 

I had posted this information a couple years ago.

 

I saw a demonstration of a different type of fire extinguisher years ago.
It was called FireAde 2000.  I don't' sell the stuff.

 

In the demo the guy dumped gasoline in a wash tub and lit it.  He
extinguished the fire with his stuff.  Then he stepped into the tub and took
a propane torch and tried to re-light it while still standing in it.  It
would not light.  When sprayed on a fire, it emulsifies and prevents
combustion.  It also cools as it hits so it helps to bring temps below flash
temps.

 

With the advent of YouTube, there are several demonstration videos.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UPkmIwZBhMQ

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=843WcqiS0eM (not in English, but you will get
the point)

 

More can be found.

 

This is what I will be carrying on my plane.

 

Here is one site that sells it:  http://www.firesupplydepot.com/

 

Andy

 

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Andy Millin

amillin at sbcglobal.net

 

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