REFLECTOR: IVO motor

John Dibble aminetech at bluefrog.com
Tue Jun 23 11:32:07 CDT 2009


I think the ones supplied by IVO are too small.  Mine are 1/4x3/8".

John

Michael Watson wrote:

> Same as the originals. I will measure this Saturday and let you know,
>
>
> On Mon, Jun 22, 2009 at 2:17 PM, John Dibble <aminetech at bluefrog.com>
> wrote:
>
>      What size (cross section) are the brushes?  I bought some
>      replacement cartridges that fit my holder.
>
>      John
>
>      Michael Watson wrote:
>
>     > JOHN,
>     > IVO sells a new clear transparent brush holder. You can
>     > visually check
>     > the brushes while doing your walk around. I have 20 hrs.
>     > using it. Works
>     > great.
>     >
>     >
>     > On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 3:01 PM, <aminetech at bluefrog.com>
>     > wrote:
>     >
>     >      I touched the slip rings with the leads from a
>     >      battery charger and the motor ran robustly in
>     >      both directions.  Then, while operating the
>     >      switch, I measured the volts at the leads to the
>     >      brushes and saw 10 volts.  So the problem is
>     >      with the brushes.  I have large brushes that I
>     >      believe are the correct size.  I just replaced
>     >      one because it was almost worn off.  (I broke
>     >      off a large part of it a few years ago).  The
>     >      other one still has a lot of brush left, but
>     >      maybe I need to replace that one as well.  At
>     >      least I don't have to mess with the motor.Thanks
>     >      for all the help. John
>     >      --- mikewatsspg at gmail.com wrote:
>     >      From: Michael Watson <mikewatsspg at gmail.com>
>     >      To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
>     >      <reflector at tvbf.org>
>     >      Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: IVO motorDate: Sun, 21
>     >      Jun 2009 13:21:22 -0400
>     >
>     >      John,
>     >
>     >      I have been following this thread and Larry have
>     >      given you great advise.
>     >
>     >      Try this. Remove the clips from the top of the
>     >      brush Assy. Connect
>     >      the leads from a 10~25A battery charger to the
>     >      top of the Assy one way
>     >      + Red to one brush - Black to the other. the
>     >      motor should run to the
>     >      max of one pitch setting, reverse the leads from
>     >      the charger, and the
>     >      motor should run until the prop reaches the max
>     >      opposite pitch.
>     >      During the runs, the current reading on the
>     >      charger should read
>     >      between 8 to 12 Amps.
>     >
>     >      If the above works, then the motor and drive
>     >      system (worm gear) is ok.
>     >      I regularly do this to make sure all is OK back
>     >      there.
>     >      Good Luck.
>     >
>     >
>     >      On Sun, Jun 21, 2009 at 11:35
>     >      AM, <aminetech at bluefrog.com> wrote:
>     >
>     >           I'm not sure if my IVO current is
>     >           measured by the engine monitor, but I
>     >           do see about a 5 amp increase with the
>     >           switch on.  I measured the volts
>     >           across the contact rings and got 1.7 v
>     >           when switching to fine pitch (end of
>     >           travel) and 3.5 v when switching to
>     >           coarse pitch (pitch changing).  These
>     >           numbers seem low.  What should they
>     >           be? John
>     >           --- lwcoen at hotmail.com wrote:
>     >           From: "Laurence Coen"
>     >           <lwcoen at hotmail.com>
>     >           To: "Velocity Aircraft Owners and
>     >           Builders list" <reflector at tvbf.org>
>     >           Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: IVO motor
>     >           Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 18:13:38 -0500
>     >            John, No you can't.  The crush
>     >           plates, lead screw and cam bobbin all
>     >           need to be returned for repair. The
>     >           blades do not have to be shipped.
>     >           Larry CoenN136LC
>     >
>     >           From:aminetech at bluefrog.comSent:
>     >           Saturday, June 20, 2009 5:31 PMTo:
>     >           Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders
>     >           listSubject: Re: REFLECTOR: IVO motor
>     >           I'll try to check the current.  Can
>     >           the motor be removed without removing
>     >           the blades?
>     >           --- lwcoen at hotmail.com wrote:
>     >           From: "Laurence Coen"
>     >           <lwcoen at hotmail.com>
>     >           To: "Velocity Aircraft Owners and
>     >           Builders list" <reflector at tvbf.org>
>     >           Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: IVO motor
>     >           Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 13:06:48 -0500
>     >            John, I had the same thing happen to
>     >           me.  In my case the motor was taking
>     >           excessive current.  When the prop
>     >           passes thru the neutral position, the
>     >           motor should take about 2 amps.  Mine
>     >           was taking 20 amps and would stall
>     >           before getting to the stops.  You can
>     >           check this by running the prop pitch
>     >           with the engine stopped and watching
>     >           the ammeter.  It took three trips back
>     >           to the factory to get it fixed and I'm
>     >           still keeping my fingers crossed.  I
>     >           also talked with Ivo himself several
>     >           times.  He is currently living in the
>     >           middle of nowhere Utah. I never liked
>     >           the idea of the mechanical stops that
>     >           simply stall the motor and the only
>     >           way you know you have reached the
>     >           limit is when the breaker pops.  The
>     >           current rises very rapidly when you
>     >           get to the stop. I designed a current
>     >           limiter circuit that shuts off the
>     >           motor before it stalls and turns on a
>     >           light to let you know that you are at
>     >           the limit.  It seems to be working
>     >           well. Larry CoenN136LC
>     >
>     >           From:aminetech at bluefrog.comSent:
>     >           Saturday, June 20, 2009 8:56 AMTo:
>     >           Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders
>     >           listSubject: REFLECTOR: IVO motor
>     >
>     >           After a few hours in the TN summer
>     >           heat, my engine was back together and
>     >           running well again.  I made it to NY
>     >           the same day in spite of T/S
>     >           approaching from the west.  My skills
>     >           at negotiating around weather are
>     >           improving, I just don't like this
>     >           learning process...Anyway, on to the
>     >           next to do.  I am unable to adjust my
>     >           IVO pitch to either full extreme.  Is
>     >           there a way I can check the voltage at
>     >           the motor to see it it's a poor
>     >           connection, or the motor itself? John
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