REFLECTOR: Belleville washers

Sun Jun 21 16:01:33 CDT 2009

If you need a nylon washer call me at 661 400 5556 Jeff

From: terrence_miles at hotmail.com
To: reflector at tvbf.org
Date: Sat, 20 Jun 2009 06:50:44 -0400
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Belleville washers

John,
Thanks so much for volunteering that.  I recall that they went in originally smooth, primed and un-lubed.  The problem I have is adjusting the big nyloc to setting that is neither too loose nor too tight.  A bit of grease seems to increase the torque range tolerance.   The prime coat of paint is long since rubbed off and I thought the rust was part of my culprit.  

If I were to say, it is steering problems I have and not so much shimmy problems.  I have an XLRG.  The only shimmy I see in when on the brakes in the latter half of the roll out, and then only when there is more wgt on the nose wheel from having someone in the right seat.  I am tempted now to take my 1/7/8 (or whatever size it is) end wrench over to the local welding shop and have then make a 1/2 fitting on it to fit my torque wrench.  The fish-scale-as-tq-wrench method is not working for me…and the end of wrench is so fat I can only get a few degrees of bolt rotation at a time before it hit the forks.  

So people know, there are several different nose leg assemblies in the field with differing washer count.  Were I to add a nylon washer and not remove any steel washers, it would have to be in the thinner side.  As it is, I barely have 3 threads showing.  
Terry

From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] On Behalf Of John Youngblood
Sent: Friday, June 19, 2009 18:18
To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Belleville washers

Terry,  The idea of Belleville washers is to develop turning friction to subdue shimmy.  You may want to wipe off the grease in order for the washers to transfer torque.

John

On Jun 19, 2009, at 2:04 PM, Terry Miles wrote:

Jeff
Whatever you got.  1/16th or so?  This is out of sequence some, but I have been removing, polishing off corosion, regreasing (just stock marine grease) and adjusting the tq to my bellvues on about a quarterly basis.  If you have a better mousetrap I'd be interested that's all.   
Terry

From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Howell
Sent: Thursday, June 18, 2009 10:24
To: reflector at tvbf.org
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Belleville washers

I may still have a few made I will have to check. I made them in different thicknesses. what thickness are you looking for? Jeff

From: terrence_miles at hotmail.com
To: reflector at tvbf.org
Date: Wed, 17 Jun 2009 19:31:12 -0500
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Belleville washers

Jeff,
Could I talk you into making a set for me?  I'd gladly trade for free banjo lessons or $5 or whatever plus shipping.
Terry Miles

From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] On Behalf Of Jeff Howell
Sent: Wednesday, June 17, 2009 17:29
To: reflector at tvbf.org
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Belleville washers

I ordered some 2 1/2" round stock on line and opened up a hole to the right dia. using a lathe. It works great. 

Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 14:19:50 -0700
From: ajlz72756 at yahoo.com
To: reflector at tvbf.org
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Belleville washers

Where did you get the nylon sheet stock that you made the washers from and how many did you use?

Andy Ellzey

From: Jeff Howell <jeffreyhowell at hotmail.com>
To: reflector at tvbf.org
Sent: Tuesday, June 16, 2009 2:07:49 PM
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Belleville washers

I found that a combo of a home made nylon washer and a nose wheel lock makes a great addation to any velocity. no nose wheel shimmy and awsome steering (taxi) on the ground...Jeff

From: johnt at comp-sol.com
To: reflector at tvbf.org
Date: Tue, 16 Jun 2009 12:25:25 -0500
Subject: REFLECTOR: Belleville washers

I have the 'thin' belleville washers (with spacer) - and plan on purchasing a new washer kit from the factory, but I thought someone had successfully been using SS washers - and had suggested McMaster as a source...?

John

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