REFLECTOR: CSA

jcbarnes411 at sbcglobal.net jcbarnes411 at sbcglobal.net
Thu Jun 11 15:28:14 CDT 2009


Hi Folks,
 
         I'm pleased Lou went to the length he did to set the record straight, and glad Terry was able to respond as well as he did. I've been following this thread and thought Lou was starting to sound like a voice in the wilderness - he'd be saying all this good stuff, and no-one even acknowledged it. If you don't already know, I believe Terry held non-turbo altitude record for class (in a LEZ) before Jim Wright (also a LEZ) took it over. 
 
        Some folks have expressed a strong negative bias against a great group of fellow aviators based on the second-hand remark of 1 person (who may or may not have put away a beer or two - I don't know the specific circumstance). Is that a fair judgement to make ?  
 
       Granted, some of the commentary has been very funny, but certainly not to be taken seriously.
 
        I've been a CSA member as long as I've been a Velocity owner, though I missed paying the dues for a year or two here and there.  That membership was on the express recommendation from Duane Swing and the factory itself. CSA is a great family, especially if you are downed in some foriegn airfield. 
 
        Thanks to CSA and relationships built up from canard-aviators yahoo group, when Rene Dugas was down in Billings MT, I was able to get a LEZ builder and A&P just a 2 hour flight away from Rene to be on deck in case he needed supplies or assistance.  He didn't need it, but you never know when you'll need a die grinder, some glass or carbon wraps and a couple jugs of West Systems or EZ-poxy.
 
        When Rich Guerra cracked a nose gear gusset at OSH who came to his aid ?  Steve Beert, co-chair of the Oshkosh ermergency repair center, former President of Iowa EAA Chapter 75, LEZ builder and CSA member.
 
        Thanks to yahoo group canard-aviators, a de facto extension of CSA, downed Israeli Cozy pilot in Iceland nearly had a new landing gear hand-delivered by ferry pilots out of Bangor Maine, though at last minute he opted for Federal express as a sure thing, even though they couldn't get there until a day later than the ferry pilot could.
 
        They also have a big hand in the Kanud Utah air races, Fuel Venture, Canards de Mayo, Jakpot, etc, places sorely needing greater Velocity participation, and exactly the places you guys would want as fly-out destinations. I haven't done the math, but I haven't seen any clear reason a Velocity couldn't win a Fuel-Venture.
 
        So if you think the CSA is just about hot dogs and hamburgers at Oshkosh with some guys in wimpier aircraft in a time slot conflicting with the great Annual Velocity Cookout tha Andy has been hosting, think again. They also server chili, chips, and sodas !  
 
       ACTUALLY, is there a compelling reason the Velocity cookout couldn't be held on Tuesday so we could all enjoy both cookouts (and still get to Vision of Eagles on Thursday nite) ?
 
       Last year I made the CSA cookout, the Ford Chapter Presidents reception (they hand out good swag - somebody want to be my date this year ?), and finally the Velocity cookout (after missing all prior years). I was pretty well fed, but had to miss the Wednesday Young Eagle Awards ceremony at the museum - something I otherwise could have made if 1 of the other 3 had been scheduled on Tuesday or Thursday.

        I love both cookouts, but the CSA cookout has the added benefits that the Aviation Explorers do the cooking and get their tip jar filled, but moreover, a dedicated group of 14 to 21 year olds that do our aircraft parking can mingle shoulder to shoulder with a seasoned gang of aviators who enjoy passing down their wisdom. 
 
        If you're a young eagle pilot like me, you'll see the Aviation Explorer program is one of the missing links to the question of where do the kids go after their Young Eagle flights. If you want to get behind the Aviation Explorer program, you can do so and get a belly full of dogs and beans at the same time, Of course, you could also call your local BSA and help start up or sponser a post. 
 
       Anyway, if you believe the next generation might be the only thing protecting and preserving your right to fly in 5 or 10 years, you might see a CSA membership (or just a plate of beans at their cookout) as a great way to move that along.
 
       Whether we adjust the Velocity cookout schedule or not, Andy has already gotten the vindication he deserves from CSA founder Terry Shubert himself, and I hope we can all take up the initation to join and support the CSA. And I haven't even got started on Rough River or a Rutan birthday party yet.
 
        I know you're asking yourself how do I join the CSA ? Send a $30 check to Terry Shubert, 9283 Lindbergh Blvd, Olmsted Falls OHIO 44138, or you can pay-pal $35 from links off of www.ez.org.
 
 
Regards,
 
Jeff Barnes
Velocity XL-RG virgin for sale
847-331-2567 cell
Pres, EAA Chapter 414
 
 
 

--- On Wed, 6/10/09, Lou Stedman <stedmanlou at roadrunner.com> wrote:


From: Lou Stedman <stedmanlou at roadrunner.com>
Subject: REFLECTOR: CSA
To: "Reflector Velocity" <reflector at tvbf.org>
Date: Wednesday, June 10, 2009, 9:55 PM





Hi Guys
I shared some of your constructive criticisms about the EZ group with Terry Schubert who is the editor of the Central States Association newsletter. Here is his response.
 

I can see why some Velocity folks have been offended/disappointed by their treatment. I am disappointed but not surprised.  Every group has associates who could improve on their substandard social skills. I can think of a few who would fit the disappointing communication pattern you cited. Fortunately, those are a small minority of the plans built canard family, I assure you. 
Rough River is a CSA sponsored event and is open to ALL canard enthusiasts.  Many non-members show up each year.  They are all welcome and treated the same as supporting CSA members.  Some guests disappoint and I am sorry Velocity people or anyone else was subjected to any rude treatment.
Fortunately the vast majority of CSA people realize we are all canard pusher enthusiasts and can profit by working together.  More than a few plans built canard pusher owners are now Velocity owners.  I prefer to think we are all driven by the same thing but have different ways of achieving the same goals. That is healthy.  We can learn from each other.
I wish to invite Velocity enthusiasts to consider Central States Association membership.  EZ-Taxi and Canard Club programs help travelers in need and increase inner organization communication.
The 34 page quarterly newsletter is filled with maintenance, modification, piloting techniques, travel experiences as well as other canard use items of interest.  The world wide membership also allows for great diversity in solving canard operation challenges.  You may be interested in perusing the nearly 5000 article titles from past newsletters in the attached searchable index.
I wish to invite you also to attend our OSH cookout held on Wed July 29 at 5:30-7 PM at the north end of OSH parking.  Contact me for directions. jschuber at juno.com  The cookout is hosted by the Air Explorer post scouts that help park the OSH  arriving airplanes.  A $5 donation to the Explorer post is expected from each attendee.  The canard company is fun and you have a chance to win a door prize.  
For further information on problems such as understanding pusher cooling and learning what DOES WORK perhaps you'd like to download the free Pusher Cooling forum that was given at OSH.  It is available in PowerPoint with MP-3 file for audio.  Go to EZ.org for pictures, related downloads and information on joining CSA.  Should you wish to look at past pictures from CSA Newsletters and want the issue password please contact me. jschuber at juno.com  
New drag reduction ideas are constantly being worked on by the membership and they are offered in the newsletter.  Many of the typical pusher problems have known solutions.  Many are illustrated in the newsletter.
Please consider looking at CSA.  I am sure closer association will benefit us all.
Fly safely,
Terry Schubert
Lou Stedman
Velocity N7044Q
Olean, NY
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