REFLECTOR: Membership Roster

Tue Jun 9 22:44:23 CDT 2009

Please be understanding when conversing with LEZ builders. They only  
have one friend on Earth. That's why they spend so much time building  
a plane that can barely carry that one friend. They're lonely souls on  
a mission.
Just kidding. Both groups have been great to me. But come to think of  
it I only have one friend too.
Let's everybody laugh and share some hardner or resin and fly faster  
than an EZ.

Rene' Dugas
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On Jun 9, 2009, at 3:07 PM, "Alex Balic" <velocity_pilot at verizon.net>  
wrote:

> Everything’s relative- EZ guys have it in for us, canard guys have i 
> t in for the RV crowd, and Experimental pilots always have something 
>  to say to the Spam Canners- no big deal really we are all pilots- n 
> ow non-pilots, that is a different matter entirely……
>
>
>
> From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org]  
> On Behalf Of Andy Millin
> Sent: Tuesday, June 09, 2009 1:21 PM
> To: 'Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list'
> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Membership Roster
>
>
>
> Didn’t really respond.  I didn’t see any point.  I was just  
> disappointed.
>
>
>
> From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org]  
> On Behalf Of SlvEgl99 at aol.com
> Sent: 06-09-2009 1:51
> To: reflector at tvbf.org
> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Membership Roster
>
>
>
> In response to "It must be nice to be rich", the correct answer is  
> "Yep". Saves a lot of BS discussion.
>
>
>
> Bob Wood
>
>
>
> In a message dated 6/9/2009 11:54:46 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, amillin at sbcglobal.net 
>  writes:
>
> I went to Rough River last year.  Waiting for Brett and Beth to show  
> up.  :)
>
> That was my first encounter with Canard Class Discrimination.  It  
> was pretty
> heavy handed at times.
>
> As soon as I mentioned I was building a Velocity the reply was "It  
> must be
> nice to be rich."  Then they went into how I "snapped the airplane  
> together
> instead of actually building it."
>
> It was amazing...
>
> Andy
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org]  
> On
> Behalf Of Alex Balic
> Sent: 06-09-2009 10:12
> To: 'Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list'
> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Membership Roster
>
> Yea- I get that from the EZ guys at my field- although they somehow  
> have
> fully accepted the local Burkut builder- probably because the design  
> is so
> similar.  I gain some favor because I did not get any fast build  
> options so
> I usually start the conversations with how tough it was (not) to get  
> the
> foam cores lined up and sanded on the wings, then they counter with  
> how easy
> it must have been to just glue 2 fuselage halves together.....
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org]  
> On
> Behalf Of Scott Derrick
> Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 8:19 AM
> To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Membership Roster
>
> I would add that there is a not so subtle class system within the EZ
> crowd, with Velocity's at the bottom.
>
> What did we do wrong in their log filled eyes?
>
> 1.) We are flying an airplane Rutan said, "would not fly", Maher  
> proved
> him wrong and did it any way.  At least thats the story.
>
> 2.) Its a "no don't say it!",  kit plane.  Real canards are plans  
> built.
>
> 3.) Velocity's sell(turn over) more than EZ's, so there is a perceived
> higher percentage of bought Velocity's.  A good number of these bought
> Velocity's are owned by people with have an avid interest in flying  
> and
> not much in building.  How could they?
>
> Scott
>
> PS. Boy would this message get some traction on the
> rec.aviation.homebuilt  news group!   I'd have to put on my Nomex  
> suit!
>
> vance atkinson wrote:
> > Lou Stedman wrote:
> >> After reading Al's posting about his missing door incident, I was
> >> curious about where he was located. I pulled out my trusty Central
> >> States Association membership roster, assuming that most canard
> >> builders and flyers were members. To my surprise, I found only  
> eleven
> >> Velocity owners listed out of 789 members. My question is why? I  
> have
> >> been a member since I got my Long EZ about ten years ago and find  
> it
> >> to be a wonderful asset when rebuilding some particular part of our
> >> canard aircraft. I look forward to the quarterly publication which
> >> comes out full of building tips and articles so dear to we
> >> experimental nuts. One of the other things I find invaluable is the
> >> annual membership roster that comes out in January with everyone's
> >> name and contact information. I keep in my aircraft so that I can
> >> look up fellow canardians whenever I visit anew area. I am fairly  
> new
> >> to the Velocity Group so I may not be aware but is there something
> >> similar to this with fellow Velocity owners. If not I would  
> encourage
> >> all to become a member of CSA. Contact information is
> >> jschubert at juno.com <mailto:jschubert at juno.com>. The other choice
> >> would be to make up our own Velocity membership roster and I  
> would be
> >> happy to get involved in this.
> >>
> >>
> >> Lou Stedman
> >> Velocity N7044Q
> >> Olean, NY
> > Lou... Ive found in general that the Velo crowd does less tinkering
> > than the "EZ" crowd does.  and a lot more Velos were built by others
> > rather than the owner.  They tend to spend money on things for fixes
> > rather than come up with a cheap homemade solution.
> > The above is applied in general to their population.
> >
> > vance atkinson
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