REFLECTOR: Membership Roster

[Scott Baker]

True story told to me by a Velocity builder regarding Cozy builders and Velocity builders.
He asked, "Do you know the difference between a Cozy builder and a Velocity builder?"
I replied in the negative.
He said, "In the Cozy community, he who builds his aircraft for the least amount of money, wins the game.  Bragging rights are earned around Rough River camp fires comparing who paid what amount for a particular part or assembly."  He went on to say that Velocity owners are not obsessed with saving money, especially when it comes to building important components (read safety) of the aircraft.  He said the stories bordered on the ridiculous ..."Why, I got my nose wheel off a Publix shopping cart for nothin!"
Now - I must tell you that I do not personally know any Cozy builders - although I have debated one Cozy owner in a forum who swears that he build his completed Cozy, including engine, propeller, and avionics for less than $30K; and did so in less than 6-months.  I'm having a hard time swallowing that one.
Interesting comparison, don't you think?
SB

  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: milehitaz 
  To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list 
  Sent: Friday, June 05, 2009 2:26 PM
  Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Membership Roster


  I don't know about you all but I am still giggling, thanks Scott I needed that!

  And.... I just wanted to add that my feeble three surviving brain cells remember an excel spread sheet somewhere in cyber world from years gone by that had a large number of Velocity owners, Builders logged into it. This list contained Names, Kit numbers, engine and prop specs along with other equipment info and I believe E-mail addresses and phone numbers. 

  I don't remember if this was a sheet that was on someone's private web page, old factory info or just where I found it. I had it stored in an old computer that is long gone and hadn't thought about it again till now. Familiar to anyone else?

  Larry Lambert
  XL/RG



  In a message dated 06/05/09 06:21:26 Pacific Daylight Time, scott at tnstaafl.net writes:
    I would add that there is a not so subtle class system within the EZ 
    crowd, with Velocity's at the bottom. 

    What did we do wrong in their log filled eyes? 

    1.) We are flying an airplane Rutan said, "would not fly", Maher proved 
    him wrong and did it any way.  At least thats the story. 

    2.) Its a "no don't say it!",  kit plane.  Real canards are plans built. 

    3.) Velocity's sell(turn over) more than EZ's, so there is a perceived 
    higher percentage of bought Velocity's.  A good number of these bought 
    Velocity's are owned by people with have an avid interest in flying and 
    not much in building.  How could they? 

    Scott 

    PS. Boy would this message get some traction on the 
    rec.aviation.homebuilt  news group!   I'd have to put on my Nomex suit! 

    vance atkinson wrote: 
    > Lou Stedman wrote: 
    >> After reading Al's posting about his missing door incident, I was 
    &g! t;> curious about where he was located. I pulled out my trusty Central 
    >> States Association membership roster, assuming that most canard 
    >> builders and flyers were members. To my surprise, I found only eleven 
    >> Velocity owners listed out of 789 members. My question is why? I have 
    >> been a member since I got my Long EZ about ten years ago and find it 
    >> to be a wonderful asset when rebuilding some particular part of our 
    >> canard aircraft. I look forward to the quarterly publication which 
    >> comes out full of building tips and articles so dear to we 
    >> experimental nuts. One of the other things I find invaluable is the 
    >> annual membership roster that comes out in January with everyone's 
    >> name and contact information. I keep in my aircraft so that I can 
    >> look up fellow canardians whenever I visit anew area. I am fairly new 
    >> to the Velocity Grou! p so I may not be aware but is there something 
    >> similar to this with fellow Velocity owners. If not I would encourage 
    >> all to become a member of CSA. Contact information is 
    >> jschubert at juno.com <mailto:jschubert at juno.com>. The other choice 
    >> would be to make up our own Velocity membership roster and I would be 
    >> happy to get involved in this. 
    >>   
    >>   
    >> Lou Stedman 
    >> Velocity N7044Q 
    >> Olean, NY 
    > Lou... Ive found in general that the Velo crowd does less tinkering 
    > than the "EZ" crowd does.  and a lot more Velos were built by others 
    > rather than the owner.  They tend to spend money on things for fixes 
    > rather than come up with a cheap homemade solution. 
    > The above is applied in general to their population. 
    > 
    > vance atkinson 
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