REFLECTOR: 2 Pass cooler

John Dibble aminetech at bluefrog.com
Fri Jul 31 09:06:54 CDT 2009


I think it is always better to use the cooler air with the cooler oil.
Of course if a separate air supply is used for each cooler, that is even
better.  I understand that hooking the coolers in parallel is better
than series.

John

Chuck Jensen wrote:

> Jim, not only that, but the oil in the second cooler will be, well,
> 'cooler', so there'll be less of a delta T, further reducing the
> effectiveness of the second cooler in series. Thermodynamic question.
> If one is going to stack two coolers, is it better to put the incoming
> hot oil through the front cooler that has also has the coolest air,
> knowing that the second cooler will suffer from cooler oil and warmer
> air?  Or, is it better to put the second cooler that the oil passes
> through in front where it'll have the cooler incoming air.  The second
> cooler in line will see warmer air, but the oil is hotter, coming
> straight from the engine......or, does it make any difference?Chuck
> Jensen
>
>
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>      -----Original Message-----
>      From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org
>      [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org]On Behalf Of Jim Agnew
>      Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 7:53 AM
>      To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
>      Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: 2 Pass cooler
>
>      The standard Velocity oil cooler at cruise will give about a
>      15 degree drop.  This is based on a friends comments after
>      many years of race car building and racing with similar
>      coolers.  I would like to know if these are stacked coolers
>      is the 20% drop from the first to last cooler or overall.
>      If there stacked then the second cooler is working with much
>      warmer incoming air. JimJames F. Agnew
>
>      Jim_Agnew_2 at Yahoo.Com
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>      Tampa, FL
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>      Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: 2 Pass cooler
>
>      Stewart Warner
>
>      --- scott at tnstaafl.net wrote:
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>      From: Scott Derrick <scott at tnstaafl.net>
>      To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
>      <reflector at tvbf.org>
>      Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: 2 Pass cooler
>      Date: Thu, 30 Jul 2009 20:10:30 -0600
>
>      is this the Aero-Classic cooler?  Stewart Warner?
>
>      John Dibble wrote:
>      > Yes.  I'm trying to get a feel for what a 20% increase in
>      cooling means.  The vendor claims
>      > a 15-20 F reduction.  Anyone have temperature data on oil
>      in versus oil out of the cooler?
>      >
>      > John
>      >
>      > Scott Derrick wrote:
>      >
>      >
>      >> So some plumbing changes needed to replace the
>      original....
>      >>
>      >> John Dibble wrote:
>      >>
>      >>> Scott,
>      >>> I lost your post, but the answer to your question is all
>      dimensions including the bolt
>      >>> holes are identical.  The only difference is that one
>      oil line connection is on the
>      >>> bottom and the other on top, same side.
>      >>>
>      >>> John
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