REFLECTOR: Who took this pic
nmflyer1 at aol.com
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Sat Jul 11 09:58:32 CDT 2009
Seems like weather at work is a little more spread out and farther west than it usually is. I know down here at Mid Valley I have never seen this much rain. I think this is the rirst week in 2 months where it has not rained down here.
A lot more GA aircraft having to deviate around things (instead of sneak under). Probably because it is not evaporating on the way down since it is more humid.
Kurt
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From: Scott Derrick <scott at tnstaafl.net>
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Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Who took this pic
Kurt,
I've been at 19,000 ft in mine with the IO360.
The climb rate was pathetic! But it felt fairly stable, nothing like my
Bonanza that felt like I was riding a marble at that altitude.
That pic is definitely taken from a few thousand ft agl. Could be
anywhere between 7 and 10,000 ft msl if it really is near Albuquerque....
Rumor has it that El Nino, is kicking in and possibly giving is a lot
more moisture this summer to fuel those thunder bumpers. You guys at
ATC getting a similar whether briefing?
Scott
nmflyer1 at aol.com wrote:
> Well, that is not what you said:
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> "At 30,000' you are normally looking down @ 80% of thunderstorms in
> the southwest with the other 20% somewhere higher".
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> You did not say that you were looking down at 80% of the cell of a ts.
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> As you know, in our jobs,saying what you mean is quite important. It
> is also easy to loose in E-mail translation.
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> I have seen far too many people claim or advertise that you can get
> above the weaher at "X" altitude.. and they are usually off by 50%.
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> Just trying to clarify. :) It definately looks like they are well
> below the FL300 advertised. I hope to find out how high my V will go
> pretty soon.
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> KW
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> Dear Controller, I am seriously right....at 30,000' you are looking
> down at about 80% of the cell of the thunderstorm. Not implying that
> 80% of the thunderstorms top out below 30,000'. My experience with
> 7,000 hrs flying around thunderstorms in the southwest says as you say
> the tops are usually 37 to 42,000, with occational superstorms going
> well above 60,000. This picture from this angle , ie; near the bases,
> looks like an average every day new Mexico thunderstorm, definately
> not a mid west super cell.
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> --- On *Fri, 7/10/09, nmflyer1 at aol.com <mailto:nmflyer1 at aol.com>
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> From: nmflyer1 at aol.com <mailto:nmflyer1 at aol.com> <nmflyer1 at aol.com
> <mailto:nmflyer1 at aol.com>>
> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Who took this pic
> To:
reflector at tvbf.org <mailto:reflector at tvbf.org>
> Date: Friday, July 10, 2009, 8:46 PM
>
> You are seriously wrong saying that at FL300, you will be looking
> down on 80% of the thunderstorms in the SW.
> I have been a controller in the SW for 28 years, and the Average
> TS top this time of year is at least FL370, and I have had some of
> the new Citations even deviate around many above FL450.
>
> If the statement were reversed, it may apply to the greater
> southwest area.
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> From: Kathy Cook <gansehaut at yahoo.com <mailto:gansehaut at yahoo.com>>
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> Sent: Fri, Jul 10, 2009 9:34 pm
> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Who took this pic
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> RE: said picture from 30,000': Anyone who has sat in the front
> of an airplane looking out at thunderstorms knows that this
> picture was probably taken somewhere near the base of the clouds,
> ie: approx. 10,000'.. At 30,000' you are normally looking down @
> 80% of thunderstorms in the southwest with the other 20% somewhere
> higher. This pictures definately doesn't reflect a view of
> thunderstorms @ 30,000'. (sorry)
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> --- On *Fri, 7/10/09, dean may /<deanvmay at verizon.net
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> From: dean may <deanvmay at verizon.net
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> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Who took this pic?
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> Impressive! 30,000' in a velocity!!!
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