REFLECTOR: Who took this pic

Scott Derrick scott at tnstaafl.net
Sat Jul 11 08:28:30 CDT 2009


Kurt,

I've been at 19,000 ft in mine with the IO360. 
The climb rate was pathetic!  But it felt fairly stable, nothing like my
Bonanza that felt like I was riding a marble at that altitude.

That pic is definitely taken from a few thousand ft agl.   Could be
anywhere between 7 and 10,000 ft msl if it really is near Albuquerque....

Rumor has it that El Nino, is kicking in and possibly giving is a lot
more moisture this summer to fuel those thunder bumpers.  You guys at
ATC getting a similar whether briefing?

Scott

nmflyer1 at aol.com wrote:
> Well, that is not what you said: 
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> "At 30,000' you are normally looking down @ 80% of thunderstorms in
> the southwest with the other 20% somewhere higher". 
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> You did not say that you were looking down at 80% of the cell of a ts.
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> As you know, in our jobs,saying what you mean is quite important. It
> is also easy to loose in E-mail translation. 
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> I have seen far too many people claim or advertise that you can get
> above the weaher at "X" altitude.. and they are usually off by 50%.
>
> Just trying to clarify.  :) It definately looks like they are well
> below the FL300 advertised. I hope to find out how high my V will go
> pretty soon.
>
> KW
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> Dear Controller, I am seriously right....at 30,000' you are looking
> down at about 80% of the cell of the thunderstorm. Not implying that
> 80% of the thunderstorms top out below 30,000'. My experience with
> 7,000 hrs flying around thunderstorms in the southwest says as you say
> the tops are usually 37 to 42,000, with occational superstorms going
> well above 60,000.  This picture from this angle , ie; near the bases,
> looks like an average every day new Mexico thunderstorm, definately
> not a mid west super cell.
>
> --- On *Fri, 7/10/09, nmflyer1 at aol.com <mailto:nmflyer1 at aol.com>
> /<nmflyer1 at aol.com <mailto:nmflyer1 at aol.com>>/* wrote:
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>     From: nmflyer1 at aol.com <mailto:nmflyer1 at aol.com> <nmflyer1 at aol.com
>     <mailto:nmflyer1 at aol.com>>
>     Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Who took this pic
>     To: reflector at tvbf.org <mailto:reflector at tvbf.org>
>     Date: Friday, July 10, 2009, 8:46 PM
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>     You are seriously wrong saying that at FL300, you will be looking
>     down on 80% of the thunderstorms in the SW.
>     I have been a controller in the SW for 28 years, and the Average
>     TS top this time of year is at least FL370, and I have had some of
>     the new Citations even deviate around many above FL450.
>
>     If the statement were reversed, it may apply to the greater
>     southwest area.
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>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: Kathy Cook <gansehaut at yahoo.com <mailto:gansehaut at yahoo.com>>
>     To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list <reflector at tvbf.org
>     <mailto:reflector at tvbf.org>>
>     Sent: Fri, Jul 10, 2009 9:34 pm
>     Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Who took this pic
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>     RE:  said picture from 30,000':  Anyone who has sat in the front
>     of an airplane looking out at thunderstorms knows that this
>     picture was probably taken somewhere near the base of the clouds,
>     ie: approx. 10,000'..  At 30,000' you are normally looking down @
>     80% of thunderstorms in the southwest with the other 20% somewhere
>     higher.  This pictures definately doesn't reflect a view of
>     thunderstorms @ 30,000'.  (sorry)
>
>     --- On *Fri, 7/10/09, dean may /<deanvmay at verizon.net
>     <http://us.mc451..mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=deanvmay@verizon.net>>/*
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>         From: dean may <deanvmay at verizon.net
>         <http://us.mc451.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=deanvmay@verizon.net>>
>         Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Who took this pic?
>         To: "Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list"
>         <reflector at tvbf.org
>         <http://us.mc451.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=reflector@tvbf.org>>
>         Date: Friday, July 10, 2009, 6:52 PM
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>         Impressive!  30,000' in a velocity!!!
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