REFLECTOR: Splitting Flying Costs

[John Tvedte]

The transplanting surgeon is usually the procuring doctor as well - or part of the team - for liver and heart.  They don't want to be slowed down or delayed by weather. Speed is important, not only because of the organ - but because the surgeon's time is valuable - because they may be the transplanting surgeon upon return, that can be a long surgery after they have been in the air.

Kidneys fly commercial unaccompanied - because 'anybody' can remove a kidney. :o)  Of course, the OPO is picking up the tab...so they want to keep costs low.

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From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] On Behalf Of Dave [david.staten at gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, July 01, 2009 9:45 PM
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Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Splitting Flying Costs

The most common use would be for banked blood. I'm sorry, but Organ
Procurement Organization's dont' use angelflights. They use learjets..
And for good reasons. Lears are fast. Even though kidneys are good for
days... hearts.. 4-6 hours I believe..

Dave

Rene Dugas wrote:
> I was told I can donate flights of equipment  and donor organs but not
> the living (whole) per previous Angel Flight pilots. So maybe one
> could transport an occational kidney, pancrease or on a grander scale
> a heart. Food for thought.
> Medical pun intention;<}.
>
> Rene' Dugas
> Sent from my iPhone 3G
>
> On Jun 30, 2009, at 9:44 PM, Dave <david.staten at gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> There is not.
>>
>> But many charitable organizations will not utilize Experimentals...
>> various Angel Flight's come to mind as an example.
>>
>>
>> Scott Derrick wrote:
>>> Ah the mysterious 14 CFR 91.146 chapter.
>>>
>>> Listed as "Reserved" in any and all FARs I can find.
>>>
>>> As far as I know there is no FAR that limits the use of Homebuilt
>>> Experimental aircraft for charitable organizations.
>>>
>>> Scott
>>>
>>> John Dibble wrote:
>>>
>>>> Following is the response I got from the EAA.
>>>>
>>>> John
>>>>
>>>> Hello John,
>>>>
>>>> The FAA guy is actually correct regarding "sharing of expenses" or
>>>> "compensation" in an experimental aircraft.  The operating limitations
>>>> of the aircraft are the governing document in this case, and they
>>>> contain the following limitation:
>>>>
>>>> "No person may operate this aircraft for carrying persons or property
>>>> for compensation or hire."
>>>>
>>>> This limitation is actually taken directly from the regulations as
>>>> found
>>>> in 14 CFR 91.319(a)(2).  This is also supported by 14 CFR 91.146,
>>>> which
>>>> governs rides given in support of a charitable organization.  This
>>>> regulation prohibits charitable rides to be given in other than a
>>>> standard category aircraft.
>>>>
>>>> The bottom line is, when carrying persons in an experimental aircraft
>>>> the operator is not allowed to receive any compensation (even partial,
>>>> or a donation to a charity).
>>>>
>>>> Hope this helps.  Let me know if you have further questions.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
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