REFLECTOR: Paint issues

Al Gietzen ALVentures at cox.net
Mon Jan 5 20:14:22 CST 2009


Mark;

 

No to worry about metallic paint.  I have silver metallic on the lower half
of the fuselage, and on the tip sails; metallic green around the windows,
and metallic gold stripe on the sides and leading edge of the wings.  No
antenna problems. The guy at the PPG store says there is no metal in the
metallic paints.

 

Al

 

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From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] On
Behalf Of Mark Riley
Sent: Monday, January 05, 2009 3:07 PM
To: reflector at tvbf.org
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Reflector Digest, Vol 56, Issue 7- Paint issues

 

I am in the process of selecting paints for the exterior trim design. I like

the metallic paints but seem to recall that they will block the antennas due

to the aluminum particles they contain. I'd appreciate any advice re

available alternatives to plain colors. I can't use the color changing paint

this time because my scheme contains two colors. 

 

Thanks in advance for any advice.

 

Mark

 

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Today's Topics:

 

   1. Re:  Aileron control stick pound pull (Scott Baker)

   2. Re:  trip (Scott Derrick)

   3.  Best way to secure piano hinge wire (Dennis Martin)

   4. Re:  Best way to secure piano hinge wire (nmflyer1 at aol.com)

   5. Re:  Best way to secure piano hinge wire (Brian Michalk)

 

 

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Message: 1

Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 08:05:11 -0500

From: "Scott Baker" <sbakr at comcast.net>

Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Aileron control stick pound pull

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Hello Andy,

Confirm the ailerons have freedom of movement with the cables disconnected. 

Make sure the foam core does not interefer with the 6' long aileron torque 

tube inside the wing.

The aileron push-pull cables will have more internal friction when they are 

new.  The tightness of the dust caps contributes to this.  The friction 

caused by the dust caps will become less over time.  When routing the 

push-pull cables, make as wide a bend as possible when turning the cables 

from the whale tale through the firewall.  Too tight of a radius will cause 

internal friction.

Note that stick force feel is different in the air than on the ground. 

Depending upon the tightness of the ailron trim spring, the ailerons can 

feel somewhat stiff on the ground - but feel great during flight.

My advise not to worry about the 2# aileron stick force for now.  Fly the 

aircraft and fine tune your determinations.  The aileron control motion of 

the stick should be smooth - no binding action.

Happy New Year!

Scott B.

 

 

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From: "Andrew Ellzey" <ajlz72756 at yahoo.com>

To: "Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list" <reflector at tvbf.org>

Cc: <scottb at velocityaircraft.com>

Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 5:22 PM

Subject: REFLECTOR: Aileron control stick pound pull

 

 

I just completed rigging my aileron's and would like to know what pound pull

 

should be expected on the control stick. Using a cheep fish scale for a pull

 

gage I am getting about a 2lb pull needed for the first 1 inch of aileron 

travel and then a gradual increase to about 4lbs for full deflection. I have

 

an XLRG with the cut down keel mod so my bell cranks are rigged accordingly 

(Velocity XL-5 Rigging). The 2lb pull is the best that I have been able to 

achieve and haven't lubed anything yet. It seems to me that the push pull 

cables should have been shorter to reduce the radius of the bend as it 

travels through the gear bulkheads. My push pull cables are 60 inches long. 

Was I supposed to receive shorter cables with the cut down keel mod? Is 

there anyone on the reflector with the -5 option that hasn't installed their

 

push pull aileron cables that could measure their cables?

 

The manual calls for white grease under the rubber cups, has anyone found 

anything better? And yes, I reamed my rubber cups to reduce or completely 

eliminate any drag from the rubber wipers of the cups. I know that some say 

to completely remove the inboard cups, but if you do this the plastic guide 

that is under the cups doesn't stay in place without the cups to hold them.

 

I took the factory demo ride before I bought my kit in 2005, and I don't 

remember the aileron pull to be this stiff. What I remember was a very light

 

touch needed to fly the factory XLRG.

 

Andy Ellzey

XLRG

 

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Message: 2

Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2009 07:43:18 -0700

From: Scott Derrick <scott at tnstaafl.net>

Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: trip

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I hear ya Bob!

 

Bob Hassel wrote:

> Hi Kurt,

> 

>  

> 

> Maybe you should post a link to those places open at the airpark.  I 

> haven?t seen 60 in months, the ground is still covered in white and even 

> my golf clubs are collecting dust.  I?m only a little over an hour away 

> in Santa Fe!

> 

>  

> 

> Bob

> 

>  

> 

>  

> 

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> *From:* reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] 

> *On Behalf Of *nmflyer1 at aol.com

> *Sent:* Thursday, January 01, 2009 6:05 PM

> *To:* reflector at tvbf.org

> *Subject:* Re: REFLECTOR: trip

> 

>  

> 

> Oh, by the way. If you decide to move from the frozen  North, there are 

> places available here at the airpark.  It was 60 today, had the hangar 

> open all day fiddling with the ELT and cleaning up things.

> 

> :)  Sorry.. I had to

> 

> Kurt

> 

> 

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Lou Stedman <stedmanlou at roadrunner.com>

> To: canard Aviators <canard-aviators at yahoogroups.com>; Reflector 

> Velocity <reflector at tvbf.org>

> Sent: Thu, 1 Jan 2009 5:17 pm

> Subject: REFLECTOR: trip

> 

> Well I am sitting hear in the dead of winter in wonderful Western New 

> York, envying all of you sun country people , who get to fly this time 

> of year. Every year at this time I wonder why we don't move to warmer 

> climate. Then spring comes and I forget. For all of us in the no-fly 

> zone, keep those flying encounters coming.

> 

>  

> 

> This summer I am planning on a flying vacation out West. We would like 

> to visit the National Parks and anything else of interest that we can 

> fly to. I remember a discussion, a while back, about airports in or near 

> the park systems. I also remember a book which I read years ago on 

> flying vacations. I have tried to Goggle the information but have found 

> little success. If anyone has ideas for me, I would greatly appreciate it.

> 

>  

> 

> Lou Stedman

> Velocity N7044Q

> Olean, NY

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Message: 3

Date: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 08:34:03 -0700

From: "Dennis Martin" <dennis.doc at gmail.com>

Subject: REFLECTOR: Best way to secure piano hinge wire

To: "Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list" <reflector at tvbf.org>

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I know Kurt Winker has the same hinge installation on his cowl. Just wanted

to know best way to secure my cowling piano hinge wires. My wires now

protrude out the trailing edge of the wing root. I've got a couple of ideas,

but I assume there's a preferred method - something tried and true? Anybody

know of a web site with photos?

 

I'm off to the hangar this morning to make some welding mods on my headers.

Need to tweak one pipe to give better clearance for the aileron bell crank.

I've got a professional welder friend - I manufactured a complex part for

his Bearhawk so I get a freebie.

 

Happy new year to all,

 

Dennis Martin

 

 

 

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All the best,

Dennis

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Message: 4

Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2009 10:57:54 -0500

From: nmflyer1 at aol.com

Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Best way to secure piano hinge wire

To: reflector at tvbf.org

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Dennis, 

 

I actually have not finished that part yet. There is an RV builder friend of

mine that finished his cowl off nicely and I'd like to duplicate that. He's

out on sick leave after back surgery right now, but I should see him soon

enough. Once I get all the details on how they did it, I'll let you know. 

 

Got some crude video of the V-6 running yesterday, I'll see if I can figure

out how to put it somewhere viewable! 

 

ELT done, GPS antenna done, Next I start finishing the doors for paint. 

 

Kurt 

 

 

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From: Dennis Martin <dennis.doc at gmail.com>

To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list <reflector at tvbf.org>

Sent: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 8:34 am

Subject: REFLECTOR: Best way to secure piano hinge wire

 

 

I know Kurt Winker has the same hinge installation on his cowl. Just wanted

to know best way to secure my cowling piano hinge wires. My wires now

protrude out the trailing edge of the wing root. I've got a couple of ideas,

but I assume there's a preferred method - something tried and true? Anybody

know of a web site with photos?

 

I'm off to the hangar this morning to make some welding mods on my headers.

Need to tweak one pipe to give better clearance for the aileron bell crank.

I've got a professional welder friend - I manufactured a complex part for

his Bearhawk so I get a freebie. 

 

Happy new year to all,

 

Dennis Martin

 

 

 

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Message: 5

Date: Sat, 03 Jan 2009 11:07:21 -0600

From: Brian Michalk <michalk at awpi.com>

Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Best way to secure piano hinge wire

To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list <reflector at tvbf.org>

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Send it to me, I'll put it up.

YouTube also works.

 

nmflyer1 at aol.com wrote:

> Dennis,

> 

> I actually have not finished that part yet. There is an RV builder

> friend of mine that finished his cowl off nicely and I'd like to

> duplicate that. He's out on sick leave after back surgery right now, but

> I should see him soon enough. Once I get all the details on how they did

> it, I'll let you know.

> 

> Got some crude video of the V-6 running yesterday, I'll see if I can

> figure out how to put it somewhere viewable!

> 

> ELT done, GPS antenna done, Next I start finishing the doors for paint.

> 

> Kurt

> 

> 

> -----Original Message-----

> From: Dennis Martin <dennis.doc at gmail.com>

> To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list <reflector at tvbf.org>

> Sent: Sat, 3 Jan 2009 8:34 am

> Subject: REFLECTOR: Best way to secure piano hinge wire

> 

> I know Kurt Winker has the same hinge installation on his cowl. Just

> wanted to know best way to secure my cowling piano hinge wires. My wires

> now protrude out the trailing edge of the wing root. I've got a couple

> of ideas, but I assume there's a preferred method - something tried and

> true? Anybody know of a web site with photos?

> 

> I'm off to the hangar this morning to make some welding mods on my

> headers. Need to tweak one pipe to give better clearance for the aileron

> bell crank. I've got a professional welder friend - I manufactured a

> complex part for his Bearhawk so I get a freebie.

> 

> Happy new year to all,

> 

> Dennis Martin

> 

> 

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> Dennis

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