REFLECTOR: FW: GPS for IFR

[Chuck Jensen]

I second Air Charts.

Chuck Jensen



-----Original Message-----
From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org]On
Behalf Of Scott Derrick
Sent: Friday, February 20, 2009 12:45 PM
To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: FW: GPS for IFR


I like the Air Chart system.  Easiest and cheapest way to have current
VFR,IFR and Approach plates I found.  Also amazingly compact.  I keep
last year's chart books at home to do flight planning.

You get an update list every 28 days to update your charts,  which does
require some work on your part.  Though I found going through the
changes made me more situationally aware..For approach plates I had
certain plates I checked for changes on every 28 dya cycle, others I
would check if I was planning a flight to or from a particular airport
or alternate. , the most current update has a list of all changed
plates.  What I found out was that most plates rarely change.  And most 
chart changes  are  simple or out of my area.

At first it was difficult adjusting to turning pages and getting used to
the how the pages were ordered, but after a few flights with the chart
books it was second nature.  I have found charts are very personal,  I'm
the kind of pilot that likes to have a chart  for my current position
open all the time, others just use the GPS map.  The biggest negative I
found was you can't see the whole chart at once, since its cut into
pages.  The VFR charts are WAC's which some don't like, I do because
sectionals don't  fit the speed of our airplanes in my opinion.

Since my plane has been down for almost 3 years now for all the changes
I have made I haven't been subscribed to Air Chart. My flying job
provides me with current charts for where we fly and we keep a set of
current plates in both planes. 

Scott

nmflyer1 at aol.com wrote:
> Scott.
>
> In talking with a local DAR, he supports what you have said.
> Basically, in an experimental, you write your addendum to CYA. You do
> still have to go through the testing of the unit (usually in the
> install manuals of the GPS). He suggests that you have a line in your
> sign off that says the GPS is for VFR use only, unless the testing
> phase is completed and signed off. (His words were much more official
> sounding).
>
> By the way, I have been wondering how that Air Chart System is. I take
> it you like it?
>
> Kurt
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Derrick <scott at tnstaafl.net>
> To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list <reflector at tvbf.org>
> Sent: Fri, 20 Feb 2009 9:48 am
> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: FW: GPS for IFR
>
> David Staten wrote:
> > GPS is armed or in approach mode, and the database must be up to date.
> >   
> There is as much confusion over the database being up to date as there
> is over who can do major work on an experimental airplane.   Major work
> being defined in your operating limitations.
>
> When an IFR GPS is installed the "installer" == you, must insert an
> addendum into the airplanes operating manual.  IN the addendum, it will
> say how the currency of the data is verified.
>
> My Bonanza had it specified as "I the operator  had to verify all the
> data for your route and approaches be current in the database."  This
> allowed me to keep track of the changes on paper if any and update the
> database when the number of changes got to large to track or an approach
> I used a lot was redesigned. 
>
> Not all avionics shop word the addendum this way and short cut it by
> requiring a current database.
>
> You write the addendum so write it to give you some flexibility. Of
> course with this flexibility comes the responsibility to know whats
> current.  If you don't want to track that, subscribe for automatic
> updates. 
>
> I used the the "Air Chart System" to track changes, which at the time
> was much much cheaper than a Jep subscription.
>
> Scott
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