REFLECTOR: Electroair ignition
Scott Derrick
scott at tnstaafl.net
Thu Aug 27 17:49:07 CDT 2009
I do have a skytec PM starter on my 520 and had one on my 360.
I've read their advice, but Klaus told me that I could start with his
lightspeed using a Skytec PM starter.
I've never had a problem.
Scott
Terry Miles wrote:
> Scott,
> Maybe this is just a Skytec issue, so if you don't have a PM type starter,
> then what you are doing is fine. Just so you know, here is the link from
> SkyTec that says to start on the mag alone. http://www.skytecair.com/EI.htm
>
> Terry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] On
> Behalf Of Scott Derrick
> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 21:11
> To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Electroair ignition
>
> I started on both EI/MAG for 400 hours on myIO360, and never had a kickback
> that I noticed.
>
> I've only started my IO520 20-30 times so far with the lightspeed/mag combo,
> but I expect no problems.
>
> Scott
>
> Terry Miles wrote:
>
>> Umm,
>> You are right on that. Sorry to mislead. The starter motor company
>> advice was to use the mag...or better said not have them both on for
>> start since the spark time at startup could cause kickback. That's
>> where I was coming from. You can start on the Electro Air alone.
>> Terry
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org]
>> On Behalf Of Scott Derrick
>> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 06:57
>> To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
>> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Electroair ignition
>>
>> You can use a lightspeed for starting.
>>
>> Will start down to 6 volts. Run on 5 volts.
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> Andrew Ellzey wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Terry,
>>>
>>> My problem is that I have the Bendix S-200 series mags, they don't
>>> have an impulse coupling. This is the reason that it needs the
>>> ignition vibrator to make sufficient spark at low RPM. What I have
>>> read on the Electroair web site, it is designed to be used to start
>>> your engine.
>>>
>>> Andy
>>>
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>>> *From:* Terry Miles <terrence_miles at hotmail.com>
>>> *To:* Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list <reflector at tvbf.org>
>>> *Sent:* Monday, August 24, 2009 8:34:21 PM
>>> *Subject:* Re: REFLECTOR: Electroair ignition
>>>
>>> Andy
>>>
>>> I agree w/ Chuck. It is what is written in the SkyTeck starter users'
>>> guide too. I start on the the mag alone, and switch on the electro
>>> air after that. (IO 540)
>>>
>>> Terry
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* reflector-bounces at tvbf.org
>>> [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org]
>>> *On Behalf Of *Chuck Jensen
>>> *Sent:* Friday, August 21, 2009 10:43
>>> *To:* Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
>>> *Subject:* Re: REFLECTOR: Electroair ignition
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Andy,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Yes, start with the mag and flip on the Electro when it catches. The
>>> problem is the starter draws a lot of current which may drop the
>>> voltage to the Electro unit and if 'things get wrong, just right',
>>> it'll cause kick-back and take a tooth off your starter ring (I have
>>> from a very, very reliable source that this can happed), at least I
>>> was told that was the cause.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Anyhow, mag to start, electro to run smooth.
>>>
>>>
>>> Chuck Jensen
>>>
>>> -----
>>> *From:* reflector-bounces at tvbf.org
>>> [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org]*On Behalf Of *Andy Millin
>>> *Sent:* Friday, August 21, 2009 10:25 AM
>>> *To:* 'Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list'
>>> *Subject:* Re: REFLECTOR: Electroair ignition
>>>
>>> Bob,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Do you start the engine with the Electroair unit turned on? I was
>>> reading in the manual that it might be better to just start on the
>>> mag.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Andy
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> *From:* reflector-bounces at tvbf.org
>>> [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] *On Behalf Of *SlvEgl99 at aol.com
>>> *Sent:* 08-20-2009 7:44
>>> *To:* reflector at tvbf.org
>>> *Subject:* Re: REFLECTOR: Electroair ignition
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I have a Slick Mag on one side and a Jeff Rose Electroair on the
>>> other. I am pleased with this combination. Security from the Mag,
>>> performance from the Electroair.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I had to replace gears inside the electronic at about 375 hours.
>>> These were plastic gears, maybe nylon, and the teeth chipped.
>>> Easy, I pulled it out, sent to the factory, got it back in a week,
>>> and shoved it back in. Timing was a purely mechanical deal. Insert
>>> a pin to hold the rotating parts in a set position, Insert the
>>> head into the block with the engine at TDC, tighten the clamp and
>>> remove the pin.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I also had to have the Slick rebuilt at the same time. I think due
>>> to too much heat under the cowling.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> I am overall pleased with the electroair on the IO540. It runs
>>> well, starts well, and smoothly advances the spark when a certain
>>> RPM is hit. But I am not sure they are still making it for a 6
>>> cylinder. At least I heard that they were sticking with the 4 cyl.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Bob Wood
>>>
>>> IO540
>>>
>>> XL FG
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> In a message dated 8/20/2009 7:12:20 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>> ajlz72756 at yahoo.com writes:
>>>
>>> Is anyone using the Electroair ignition system on an IO540
>>> engine on the reflector? If so how do you like or dislike
>>> about this system? Are there any horror stories out there
>>> about this product. I know it needs battery power to operate,
>>> but with a dual battery setup this shouldn't be an issue. If
>>> you don't like this system what other option do you suggest.
>>> This all started because I needed to buy a Bendix starting
>>> vibrator for my Bendix mags. I think now it would be cheaper
>>> to buy the vibrator. Anyone out there that has a known good
>>> starting vibrator that they want to sell?
>>>
>>> Andy Ellzey
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