REFLECTOR: Electroair ignition
Scott Derrick
scott at tnstaafl.net
Wed Aug 26 22:05:22 CDT 2009
Oh those factory guys! You know how they are! :-)
Jeff Barnes wrote:
> The factory would start 97XL on the mag then turn on the EI. --Jeff Barnes
>
> --- On *Wed, 8/26/09, Scott Derrick /<scott at tnstaafl.net>/* wrote:
>
>
> From: Scott Derrick <scott at tnstaafl.net>
> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Electroair ignition
> To: "Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list" <reflector at tvbf.org>
> Date: Wednesday, August 26, 2009, 9:10 PM
>
> I started on both EI/MAG for 400 hours on myIO360, and never had a
> kickback that I noticed.
>
> I've only started my IO520 20-30 times so far with the lightspeed/mag
> combo, but I expect no problems.
>
> Scott
>
> Terry Miles wrote:
> > Umm,
> > You are right on that. Sorry to mislead. The starter motor
> company advice
> > was to use the mag...or better said not have them both on for
> start since
> > the spark time at startup could cause kickback. That's where I
> was coming
> > from. You can start on the Electro Air alone.
> > Terry
> >
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org
> <http://us.mc832.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=reflector-bounces@tvbf.org>
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> On
> > Behalf Of Scott Derrick
> > Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 06:57
> > To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
> > Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Electroair ignition
> >
> > You can use a lightspeed for starting.
> >
> > Will start down to 6 volts. Run on 5 volts.
> >
> > Scott
> >
> > Andrew Ellzey wrote:
> >
> >> Terry,
> >>
> >> My problem is that I have the Bendix S-200 series mags, they don't
> >> have an impulse coupling. This is the reason that it needs the
> >> ignition vibrator to make sufficient spark at low RPM. What I have
> >> read on the Electroair web site, it is designed to be used to
> start
> >> your engine.
> >>
> >> Andy
> >>
> >>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
> >> --
> >> *From:* Terry Miles <terrence_miles at hotmail.com
> <http://us.mc832.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=terrence_miles@hotmail.com>>
> >> *To:* Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
> <reflector at tvbf.org
> <http://us.mc832.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=reflector@tvbf.org>>
> >> *Sent:* Monday, August 24, 2009 8:34:21 PM
> >> *Subject:* Re: REFLECTOR: Electroair ignition
> >>
> >> Andy
> >>
> >> I agree w/ Chuck. It is what is written in the SkyTeck starter
> users'
> >> guide too. I start on the the mag alone, and switch on the
> electro
> >> air after that. (IO 540)
> >>
> >> Terry
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> *From:* reflector-bounces at tvbf.org
> <http://us.mc832.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=reflector-bounces@tvbf.org>
> [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org
> <http://us.mc832.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=reflector-bounces@tvbf.org>]
> >> *On Behalf Of *Chuck Jensen
> >> *Sent:* Friday, August 21, 2009 10:43
> >> *To:* Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
> >> *Subject:* Re: REFLECTOR: Electroair ignition
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Andy,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Yes, start with the mag and flip on the Electro when it
> catches. The
> >> problem is the starter draws a lot of current which may drop the
> >> voltage to the Electro unit and if 'things get wrong, just right',
> >> it'll cause kick-back and take a tooth off your starter ring (I
> have
> >> from a very, very reliable source that this can happed), at
> least I
> >> was told that was the cause.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Anyhow, mag to start, electro to run smooth.
> >>
> >>
> >> Chuck Jensen
> >>
> >> -----
> >> *From:* reflector-bounces at tvbf.org
> <http://us.mc832.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=reflector-bounces@tvbf.org>
> >> [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org
> <http://us.mc832.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=reflector-bounces@tvbf.org>]*On
> Behalf Of *Andy Millin
> >> *Sent:* Friday, August 21, 2009 10:25 AM
> >> *To:* 'Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list'
> >> *Subject:* Re: REFLECTOR: Electroair ignition
> >>
> >> Bob,
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Do you start the engine with the Electroair unit turned
> on? I was
> >> reading in the manual that it might be better to just start
> on the
> >> mag.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Andy
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> *From:* reflector-bounces at tvbf.org
> <http://us.mc832.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=reflector-bounces@tvbf.org>
> >> [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org
> <http://us.mc832.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=reflector-bounces@tvbf.org>]
> *On Behalf Of *SlvEgl99 at aol.com
> <http://us.mc832.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=SlvEgl99@aol.com>
> >> *Sent:* 08-20-2009 7:44
> >> *To:* reflector at tvbf.org
> <http://us.mc832.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=reflector@tvbf.org>
> >> *Subject:* Re: REFLECTOR: Electroair ignition
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I have a Slick Mag on one side and a Jeff Rose Electroair
> on the
> >> other. I am pleased with this combination. Security from
> the Mag,
> >> performance from the Electroair.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I had to replace gears inside the electronic at about 375
> hours.
> >> These were plastic gears, maybe nylon, and the teeth chipped.
> >> Easy, I pulled it out, sent to the factory, got it back in
> a week,
> >> and shoved it back in. Timing was a purely mechanical deal.
> Insert
> >> a pin to hold the rotating parts in a set position, Insert the
> >> head into the block with the engine at TDC, tighten the
> clamp and
> >> remove the pin.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I also had to have the Slick rebuilt at the same time. I
> think due
> >> to too much heat under the cowling.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> I am overall pleased with the electroair on the IO540. It runs
> >> well, starts well, and smoothly advances the spark when a
> certain
> >> RPM is hit. But I am not sure they are still making it for a 6
> >> cylinder. At least I heard that they were sticking with the
> 4 cyl.
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> Bob Wood
> >>
> >> IO540
> >>
> >> XL FG
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> In a message dated 8/20/2009 7:12:20 P.M. Eastern Daylight
> Time,
> >> ajlz72756 at yahoo.com
> <http://us.mc832.mail.yahoo.com/mc/compose?to=ajlz72756@yahoo.com>
> writes:
> >>
> >> Is anyone using the Electroair ignition system on an IO540
> >> engine on the reflector? If so how do you like or dislike
> >> about this system? Are there any horror stories out there
> >> about this product. I know it needs battery power to
> operate,
> >> but with a dual battery setup this shouldn't be an
> issue. If
> >> you don't like this system what other option do you
> suggest.
> >> This all started because I needed to buy a Bendix starting
> >> vibrator for my Bendix mags. I think now it would be
> cheaper
> >> to buy the vibrator. Anyone out there that has a known good
> >> starting vibrator that they want to sell?
> >>
> >> Andy Ellzey
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