REFLECTOR: Electroair ignition

Scott Derrick scott at tnstaafl.net
Wed Aug 26 21:10:35 CDT 2009


I started on both EI/MAG for 400 hours on  myIO360, and never had a
kickback that I noticed.

I've only started my IO520 20-30 times so far with the lightspeed/mag
combo, but I expect no problems. 

Scott

Terry Miles wrote:
> Umm,
> You are right on that.  Sorry to mislead.  The starter motor company advice
> was to use the mag...or better said not have them both on for start since
> the spark time at startup could cause kickback.  That's where I was coming
> from.  You can start on the Electro Air alone.  
> Terry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] On
> Behalf Of Scott Derrick
> Sent: Wednesday, August 26, 2009 06:57
> To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Electroair ignition
>
> You can use a lightspeed for starting.
>
> Will start down to 6 volts. Run on 5 volts.
>
> Scott
>
> Andrew Ellzey wrote:
>   
>> Terry,
>>  
>> My problem is that I have the Bendix S-200 series mags, they don't 
>> have an impulse coupling. This is the reason that it needs the 
>> ignition vibrator to make sufficient spark at low RPM. What I have 
>> read on the Electroair web site, it is designed to be used to start 
>> your engine.
>>  
>> Andy
>>
>> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>> --
>> *From:* Terry Miles <terrence_miles at hotmail.com>
>> *To:* Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list <reflector at tvbf.org>
>> *Sent:* Monday, August 24, 2009 8:34:21 PM
>> *Subject:* Re: REFLECTOR: Electroair ignition
>>
>> Andy
>>
>> I agree w/ Chuck.  It is what is written in the SkyTeck starter users'
>> guide too.  I start on the the mag alone, and switch on the electro 
>> air after that.  (IO 540)
>>
>> Terry
>>
>>  
>>
>> *From:* reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org]
>> *On Behalf Of *Chuck Jensen
>> *Sent:* Friday, August 21, 2009 10:43
>> *To:* Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
>> *Subject:* Re: REFLECTOR: Electroair ignition
>>
>>  
>>
>> Andy,
>>
>>  
>>
>> Yes, start with the mag and flip on the Electro when it catches.  The 
>> problem is the starter draws a lot of current which may drop the 
>> voltage to the Electro unit and if 'things get wrong, just right', 
>> it'll cause kick-back and take a tooth off your starter ring (I have 
>> from a very, very reliable source that this can happed), at least I 
>> was told that was the cause.
>>
>>  
>>
>> Anyhow, mag to start, electro to run smooth.
>>
>>
>> Chuck Jensen
>>
>> -----
>> *From:* reflector-bounces at tvbf.org
>> [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org]*On Behalf Of *Andy Millin
>> *Sent:* Friday, August 21, 2009 10:25 AM
>> *To:* 'Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list'
>> *Subject:* Re: REFLECTOR: Electroair ignition
>>
>>     Bob,
>>
>>      
>>
>>     Do you start the engine with the Electroair unit turned on?  I was
>>     reading in the manual that it might be better to just start on the
>>     mag.
>>
>>      
>>
>>     Andy
>>
>>      
>>
>>     *From:* reflector-bounces at tvbf.org
>>     [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] *On Behalf Of *SlvEgl99 at aol.com
>>     *Sent:* 08-20-2009 7:44
>>     *To:* reflector at tvbf.org
>>     *Subject:* Re: REFLECTOR: Electroair ignition
>>
>>      
>>
>>     I have a Slick Mag on one side and a Jeff Rose Electroair on the
>>     other. I am pleased with this combination. Security from the Mag,
>>     performance from the Electroair.
>>
>>      
>>
>>     I had to replace gears inside the electronic at about 375 hours.
>>     These were plastic gears, maybe nylon, and the teeth chipped.
>>     Easy, I pulled it out, sent to the factory, got it back in a week,
>>     and shoved it back in. Timing was a purely mechanical deal. Insert
>>     a pin to hold the rotating parts in a set position, Insert the
>>     head into the block with the engine at TDC, tighten the clamp and
>>     remove the pin.
>>
>>      
>>
>>     I also had to have the Slick rebuilt at the same time. I think due
>>     to too much heat under the cowling.
>>
>>      
>>
>>     I am overall pleased with the electroair on the IO540. It runs
>>     well, starts well, and smoothly advances the spark when a certain
>>     RPM is hit. But I am not sure they are still making it for a 6
>>     cylinder. At least I heard that they were sticking with the 4 cyl.
>>
>>      
>>
>>     Bob Wood
>>
>>     IO540
>>
>>     XL FG
>>
>>      
>>
>>     In a message dated 8/20/2009 7:12:20 P.M. Eastern Daylight Time,
>>     ajlz72756 at yahoo.com writes:
>>
>>         Is anyone using the Electroair ignition system on an IO540
>>         engine on the reflector? If so how do you like or dislike
>>         about this system? Are there any horror stories out there
>>         about this product. I know it needs battery power to operate,
>>         but with a dual battery setup this shouldn't be an issue. If
>>         you don't like this system what other option do you suggest.
>>         This all started because I needed to buy a Bendix starting
>>         vibrator for my Bendix mags. I think now it would be cheaper
>>         to buy the vibrator. Anyone out there that has a known good
>>         starting vibrator that they want to sell?
>>
>>         Andy Ellzey 
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