REFLECTOR: New Dynon Skyview EFIS
Scott Derrick
scott at tnstaafl.net
Tue Aug 25 18:11:15 CDT 2009
Its been a long time but I'm pretty sure it had to do with using one of
the GP inputs for a thermal couple. Manual said it worked but it
didn't. I talked with one of the head sheds there(can't remember his
name) and he said it had been dropped from the schedule to insure the
next release was on time. I got an email about a year ago from them
saying that it was now implemented and they would be happy to sell me
another unit..
I already had a Dynon unit installed and working so, *c'est la vie*
Scott
Andy Millin wrote:
> What feature of the GRT EIS are you referring to?
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] On
> Behalf Of Scott Derrick
> Sent: 08-25-2009 10:10
> To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: New Dynon Skyview EFIS
>
> Dynon is a great company. They stand toe to toe with GRT any day.
>
> I've had issues with both companys.
>
> If it can be fixed in software, both Dynon or GRT will do it, though they
> both have limited resources and your specific problem may not be a priority
> for them. I actually returned a full GRT graphical engine monitor for a
> refund because they refused to fix a software problem in the next release,
> even though their web site and documentation said that specific item was
> implemented and worked fine. My luck of the draw that my issue wasn't their
> issue.
>
> I'd certainly be more comfortable buying a Dynon unit than a GRT, but I
> think they both make good equipment and basically stand behind their
> products and you would be getting a long lived unit with great factory
> support.
>
> New hardware's compatibility with old hardware is always a problem.
> I've been on both sides of the bench on this issue. Staying compatible
> always limits what the new hardware can do. Its a trade off that usually
> involves long and contentious meetings at hardware companies.
> It is never an easy decision to orphan a product, but sooner or later it
> will happen. The competition's technology will force the issue.
>
> Whats important is that if you do happen to own a product that can no longer
> talk to or be connected to the latest and greatest, the company will
> continue to support your product as it stands.
>
> Scott
>
> Chuck Jensen wrote:
>
>> Glenn, you point out one of the strengths of GRT. With software
>> upgrade, they tend to capture requested features quite rapidly and are
>> always adding features that no one was expecting. There's only been a
>> couple things that took them a couple cycles to develop, before it was
>> included. The only time that a 'trade-in' was required is if a person
>> decided to go to a new hi-res screen. It's obvious why a trade in was
>> necessary then.
>>
>> Early on, GRT made a wise decision that Blue Mountain and apparently
>> Dynon didn't appreciate. GRT said they would not develop their own
>> A/P, but would interface with the A/P from TruTrack. GRT said that
>> A/Ps aren't as simple as they look and that coming up with controlling
>> software was far more difficult and challenging than most appreciate.
>> They would rather team/interface with a proven A/P than try to develop
>> one of their own. Sometimes, it's smart to 'tend to your knitting',
>> GRT apparently understood that.
>>
>> Chuck Jensen
>>
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> *From:* reflector-bounces at tvbf.org
>> [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org]*On Behalf Of *Glenn Babcock
>> *Sent:* Monday, August 24, 2009 7:16 PM
>> *To:* Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
>> *Subject:* Re: REFLECTOR: New Dynon Skyview EFIS
>>
>> Dennis,
>>
>> I have a D10A and I really like it. Very reliable. I also have
>> the heated pitot, remote compass, and backup battery. Lots of
>> free software upgrades have really improved functionality.
>> Support has been excellent on production products.
>>
>> However, I'm not always impressed with Dynon. It took them three
>> years to develop the heated pitot after it was announced. They
>> announced an autopilot interface that would be useful for IFR, the
>> AP-76, then dropped it. They don't support GPS Steering on my
>> GX-60 (it's too old!). They don't have an upgrade path for the
>> current equipment, only a trade in offer. Check out the Dynon
>> support forums and you'll find others who are not happy about
>> these and other things.
>>
>> Unfortunately, they seem to be continuing this trend. The new
>> EFIS looks great, but think about all of the components you need
>> to make it work. What GPS will you use with it and how will it
>> interface? Want GPS Steering? With Dynon you need a ARINC 429
>> interface module, and the current model doesn't work with the new
>> EFIS. The new one is in development, but not for the initial
>> release. Want XP Weather? Maybe someday. ADS-B? Not in the
>> initial release.
>>
>> Bottom line: I count on the Dynon equipment I have, but never on
>> the equipment they plan to release.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Glenn Babcock
>> N697RG
>> www.lakenormanairpark.org <http://www.lakenormanairpark.org>
>>
>>
>> *From:* Dennis Martin <mailto:dennis.doc at gmail.com>
>> *Sent:* Sunday, August 23, 2009 2:04 PM
>> *To:* Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
>> <mailto:reflector at tvbf.org>
>> *Subject:* REFLECTOR: New Dynon Skyview EFIS
>>
>> I'm dreaming about the future, but I saw an article about the new
>> Dynon Skyview EFIS supposedly available in December.
>>
>> http://www.dynonavionics.com/docs/news_technology_preview.html
>>
>> Did anyone see their new products? Impressions?
>>
>> I know a local pilot who tells me he loves his panel, but I've
>> never flown with him. A few questions for those who own (or have
>> experience) with Dynon panels:
>>
>> 1) How reliable is the equipment? Software?
>> 2) Is the support as good as advertised?
>> 3) Is there a competitive brand that you prefer?
>>
>> Thanks in advance,
>>
>> Dennis Martin
>>
>>
>>
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