REFLECTOR: MGL oshkosh

Mon Aug 3 12:59:31 CDT 2009

I've been similarly following MGL, and will continue to follow them until
I'm ready to make a decision. Your observations were very similar to mine, I
would add that the frequent software updates in my mind are both a strength
and a weakness. The president's (Rainier Lamers) almost daily responses on
the forum are a strength also, his attitude is very positive and responsive,
I also see regular posts from his distributors - again always positive and
helpful. But it makes me wonder ...what would happen to MGL if Rainier was
run over by a bus, had a heart attack etc as he seems to be the CEO making
strategic decisions and the hardware/ software developer, Chief Technology
Officer etc.  

I understand there's no answer to this problem of small growing companies
being heavily dependent on one key person. It's just something you need to
be aware of when you make the decision. Of course, at the rate I'm building,
MGL could be a huge organization by the time I need to choose...sigh.

Tony Babb
SEFG 62% done, 78% to go
www.alejandra.net/velocity 

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From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] On
Behalf Of Michael Watson
Sent: Monday, August 03, 2009 9:29 AM
To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: MGL oshkosh

Go with the GRT HX,  Outstanding graphics, top notch support, financially
stable.

On Mon, Aug 3, 2009 at 12:52 PM, Jack Prock <jackprock at comcast.net> wrote:

I have been following MGL for about a year now. There is a Yahoo forum that
you can follow that the president of MGL
is a participant on. I have not bought an EFIS yet and after being really
excited about their product at first,
I have lost a bit of enthusiasm over the year. 

I think their financials at the moment are very good. And their customer
service seems top-notch. How many other
companies can you send a message to the president of the company and have
him discuss your issues in an 
open forum. They seem to have a good following of customers and except for
the normal customer service items,
no one is bad mouthing them.

The software in their unit is very dynamic and changes frequently. The good
thing is a suggestion made on the forum
will get included in their next rev of software within a month or so. Their
units are VERY software initialization intensive.
You need to set many, many items in the configuration for it to work
correctly. Others, (GRT, DYNON, etc.) are a 
bit more off-the-shelf. . I am a software engineer,so this doesn't bother
me, but it could be overwhelming for some. 
Since I have set up none of them, this is just a casual observation

Also, the graphics hardware that MGL uses is not great. If you look at the
moving map and icons placed on the map, 
it looks a bit low quality. 

At the moment I am leaning towards the Grand Rapids. The price is a bit
higher, but the look and feel of the graphics
is more professional to me and their software seems to go through a more
thorough QA process. 

Jack Prock

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Stockman,  <mailto:bill.stockman at daytonaero.com> Bill 
To: Velocity xl <mailto:velocityxl at fastmail.fm>  ; Velocity Aircraft Owners
<mailto:reflector at tvbf.org> and Builders list 
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 6:31 AM
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: MGL oshkosh

I think the phrase is "buyer beware."   I applaud these firms for developing
and selling these new products.  However, as one of many "proud" owners of a
blue mountain EFIS One (I actually own two  of them), be very, very careful
of these early promises.   Greg R. at BM worked very hard to bring out new
and innovative products-which were and still are better than many of the
products on the market today-but never could get his hands around the
production and support issues.   He was a great engineer, but a lousy
businessman.   If ever buy another EFIS system (my BM system is working
great a this point), I'll consider paying extra for an established company.

From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] On
Behalf Of Velocity xl
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 9:22 AM
To: reflector at tvbf.org
Subject: REFLECTOR: MGL oshkosh

http://www.mglavionics.com/html/odyssey.html

Any one look at this unit at Oshkosh?

I really liked it  $6000 for every thing including 

the engine probs.

http://www.aviation.levil.com/EFIS.htm

This one looked interesting also  but was not near as slick as the  MGL or
the Dynon units.

The AHRS unit really seamed to lag behind the move ment and gets real
confused if you move

it to fast.   Also being a windows based unit does concern  me a bit.

Price of $4000 really is all that I saw was good about it.

Any thoughts 

Ron

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