REFLECTOR: Reflector Digest, Vol 59, Issue 11

Chuck Nickloy chuckn at big-w.com
Sat Apr 4 08:48:33 CDT 2009


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>   1. Re:  ATC Question (Scott Derrick)
>   2. Re:  ATC Question (nmflyer1 at aol.com)
>   3. Re:  flifht planning (gibbons)
>   4. Re:  ATC Question (Jim Kanter)
>   5. Re:  ATC Question (Scott Derrick)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 17:27:46 -0600
> From: Scott Derrick <scott at tnstaafl.net>
> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: ATC Question
> To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list <reflector at tvbf.org>
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> Legally you only need to inform a "Tower" of your experimental nature.
> per the FAR's anyway.
>
> Thats all I do, just the tower gets Experimental prepended to my call
> sign. For all other comm with the ATC I use Velocity 647JA on initial
> call up, and 7JA after that.
>
> Scott
>
> Scott Baker wrote:
>> On initial call to any ATC controller, must include the word
>> "Experimental"
>> It can be "Experimental 12345" or
>> "Experimental Velocity 12345"
>> Note: if the N number is less than 5 digits/numerals, then N number
>> should be expressed as "November" i.e. "Experimental Velocity
>> November
>> 12 Alpha"
>> Use of the word "Velocity" clues the controller as to the type of
>> aircraft - and, it implies that you would like future exchanges of
>> words to be preceeded by the word "Velocity".
>> The exchange should idealy go something like this ...
>> "Orlando Approach, Experimental Velocity November Niner Four Victor
>> Alpha, (followed by message)".
>> The reply from Orlando should be "Velocity Niner Four Victor Alpha,
>> (message)"
>> Continued conversations with this same controller allows you to drop
>> the word "Experimental" from the exchange.
>> However, when you are handed off to another controller, begin the
>> exchange using "Experimental".
>> Scott B.
>>
>>    ----- Original Message -----
>>    *From:* Jon Bachman <mailto:jbachman at zianet.com>
>>    *To:* Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
>>    <mailto:reflector at tvbf.org>
>>    *Sent:* Friday, April 03, 2009 4:13 PM
>>    *Subject:* REFLECTOR: ATC Question
>>
>>    Since we are talking about what to use when filing, I thought I?d
>>    ask about what to use when speaking to ATC. If VELO is good to go
>>    for filing, can a Velocity pilot use ?Velocity, (tail numbers)?
>>    when first contacting ATC instead if ?Experimental, (Tail
>>    numbers)?? Does anyone use both ?Velocity? and Experimental? when
>>    first contacting ATC? Does the word ?Experimental? need to be in
>>    all transmissions with ATC or can it just be in the first
>>    transmission, if it is needed at all?
>>
>>    Jon Bachman
>>
>>    575 430-9724
>>
>>    jonathan.bachman at mtsi-va.com <mailto:jonathan.bachman at mtsi-va.com>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Fri, 03 Apr 2009 19:36:08 -0400
> From: nmflyer1 at aol.com
> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: ATC Question
> To: reflector at tvbf.org
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> Perfect Scott,
>
> ?But then you knew that :)? what's the status of your turbo?
>
> Kurt
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Derrick <scott at tnstaafl.net>
> To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list <reflector at tvbf.org>
> Sent: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 5:27 pm
> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: ATC Question
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>
> Legally you only need to inform a "Tower" of your experimental nature.
> er the FAR's anyway.
> Thats all I do, just the tower gets Experimental prepended to my call
> ign. For all other comm with the ATC I use Velocity 647JA on initial
> all up, and 7JA after that.
> Scott
> Scott Baker wrote:
> On initial call to any ATC controller, must include the word
> "Experimental"
> It can be "Experimental 12345" or
> "Experimental Velocity 12345"
> Note: if the N number is less than 5 digits/numerals, then N number
> should be expressed as "November" i.e. "Experimental Velocity November
> 12 Alpha"
> Use of the word "Velocity" clues the controller as to the type of
> aircraft - and, it implies that you would like future exchanges of
> words to be preceeded by the word "Velocity".
> The exchange should idealy go something like this ...
> "Orlando Approach, Experimental Velocity November Niner Four Victor
> Alpha, (followed by message)".
> The reply from Orlando should be "Velocity Niner Four Victor Alpha,
> (message)"
> Continued conversations with this same controller allows you to drop
> the word "Experimental" from the exchange.
> However, when you are handed off to another controller, begin the
> exchange using "Experimental".
>
> Scott B.
>
>     ----- Original Message -----
>     *From:* Jon Bachman <mailto:jbachman at zianet.com>
>     *To:* Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
>     <mailto:reflector at tvbf.org>
>     *Sent:* Friday, April 03, 2009 4:13 PM
>     *Subject:* REFLECTOR: ATC Question
>
>     Since we are talking about what to use when filing, I thought I?d
>     ask about what to use when speaking to ATC. If VELO is good to go
>     for filing, can a Velocity pilot use ?Velocity, (tail numbers)?
>     when first contacting ATC instead if ?Experimental, (Tail
>     numbers)?? Does anyone use both ?Velocity? and Experimental? when
>     first contacting ATC? Does the word ?Experimental? need to be in
>     all transmissions with ATC or can it just be in the first
>     transmission, if it is needed at all?
>
>     Jon Bachman
>
>     575 430-9724
>
>     jonathan.bachman at mtsi-va.com <mailto:jonathan.bachman at mtsi-va.com>
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> Date: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 17:42:18 -0700
> From: "gibbons" <gibbons at as.net>
> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: flifht planning
> To: "'Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list'"
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> You are right  THANKS
> Barry
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> -----Original Message-----
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> Behalf Of Jim Kanter
> Sent: Friday, April 03, 2009 1:31 PM
> To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: flifht planning
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>
> you're missing an 'n'. It should be:
> www.navmonster.com
>
> On Fri, Apr 3, 2009 at 1:58 PM, gibbons <gibbons at as.net> wrote:
>>
>> Hello
>> A friend sent this to me. www.Navmoster.com It is a nice software for
>> planning,try it out. Barry
>>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Sat, 4 Apr 2009 01:09:12 -0400
> From: Jim Kanter <jim at d-film.com>
> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: ATC Question
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> I make the initial call as "Experimental Velocity..." and then when
> ATC replies it's either "Experimental" or "Velocity". Whichever they
> use to acknowledge my call is the one I continue to use when talking
> to them. Some controllers know what the Velocity is, some don't and
> they will ask what type of aircraft so I tell 'em.
>
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> Message: 5
> Date: Sat, 04 Apr 2009 07:40:45 -0600
> From: Scott Derrick <scott at tnstaafl.net>
> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: ATC Question
> To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list <reflector at tvbf.org>
> Message-ID: <49D7635D.6050505 at tnstaafl.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
> Turbo is rebuilt with new center housing and sitting on the bench.
> Oil
> pump is rebuilt and reinstalled using the double thread method as
> recommended by a local continental  rebuilder.  New  induction  tubes
> are cut  and fitted ready to go on.
>
> I'm in Texas right now, wiring my uncles Glastar.  He is very close to
> finishing and requested help with the engine and panel wiring.  I
> should
> have my engine back on the firewall and tested end of next week.
>
> You gonna paint before you fly?
>
> Scott
>
> nmflyer1 at aol.com wrote:
>> Perfect Scott,
>>
>> But then you knew that :)  what's the status of your turbo?
>>
>> Kurt
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Scott Derrick <scott at tnstaafl.net>
>> To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list <reflector at tvbf.org>
>> Sent: Fri, 3 Apr 2009 5:27 pm
>> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: ATC Question
>>
>> Legally you only need to inform a "Tower" of your experimental
>> nature.
>> per the FAR's anyway.
>>
>> Thats all I do, just the tower gets Experimental prepended to my call
>> sign. For all other comm with the ATC I use Velocity 647JA on initial
>> call up, and 7JA after that.
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> Scott Baker wrote:
>>> On initial call to any ATC controller, must include the word
>>> "Experimental"
>>> It can be "Experimental 12345" or
>>> "Experimental Velocity 12345"
>>> Note: if the N number is less than 5 digits/numerals, then N number
>>> should be expressed as "November" i.e. "Experimental Velocity
>>> November
>>> 12 Alpha"
>>> Use of the word "Velocity" clues the controller as to the type of
>>> aircraft - and, it implies that you would like future exchanges of
>>> words to be preceeded by the word "Velocity".
>>> The exchange should idealy go something like this ...
>>> "Orlando Approach, Experimental Velocity November Niner Four Vic
>> tor
>>> Alpha, (followed by message)".
>>> The reply from Orlando should be "Velocity Niner Four Victor Alpha,
>>> (message)"
>>> Continued conversations with this same controller allows you to drop
>>> the word "Experimental" from the exchange.
>>> However, when you are handed off to another controller, begin the
>>> exchange using "Experimental".
>>> Scott B.
>>>
>>>    ----- Original Message -----
>>>    *From:* Jon Bachman <mailto:jbachman at zianet.com <mailto:jbachman at zianet.com
>>> ?>>
>>>    *To:* Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
>>>    <mailto:reflector at tvbf.org <mailto:reflector at tvbf.org?>>
>>>    *Sent:* Friday, April 03, 2009 4:13 PM
>>>    *Subject:* REFLECTOR: ATC Question
>>>
>>>    Since we are talking about what to use when filing, I thought I?d
>>>    ask about what to use when speaking to ATC. If VELO is good to go
>>>    for filing, can a Velocity pilot use ?Velocity, (tail numbers)?
>>>    when first contacting ATC instead if ?Experimental, (Tail
>>>    numbers)?? Does anyone use both ?Velocity? and Experimental? when
>>>    first contacting ATC? Does the word ?Experimental? need to be in
>>>    all transmissions with ATC or can it just be in the first
>>>    transmission, if it is needed at all?
>>>
>>>    Jon Bachman
>>>
>>>    575 430-97
>> 24
>>>
>>>    jonathan.bachman at mtsi-va.com <mailto:jonathan.bachman at mtsi-
>>> va.com> <mailto:jonathan.bachman at mtsi-va.com <mailto:jonathan.bachman at mtsi-va.com
>>> ?>>
>>>
>>>
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