REFLECTOR: paint

[Terry Miles]

Lar,
That one's by me.  I don't know.  I did find it so in general that salesman
and the chemistry white papers that you can retrieve on line sometimes do
not agree, and when you go back to salesman they invariably back pedals.  I
asked those same questions about UV and was always told yes or words like
"I'm sure it does."  

Poly Fiber as I recall was more expensive so it likely does have the UV.
But then would paying for UV protection in more than one layer be a benefit
and if so what? Do integrated paint systems have multiple layers w/ UV
additives?  When you go into paint dealers with questions like this it's a
black hole of price/quality/handling issues with no clear best choice.

I had a furniture refinisher tell me once that UV damage in wood furniture
happens the UV hits the wood itself and bounces off damaging the under side
of the paint.  But thanks for letting me know.  I got what I got!  

Terry 


-----Original Message-----
From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] On
Behalf Of Laurence Coen
Sent: Monday, March 10, 2008 12:34 PM
To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: paint

Terry,

Poly-Fiber UV Smooth Prime uses mica as a UV blocker.  I've also heard that 
top coat UV blockers protect the top coat and not what's underneath.  I 
don't know if that's true or just a rumor started by someone that wants you 
to buy their "stuff".

Larry Coen
N136LC

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Terry Miles" <terrence_miles at hotmail.com>
To: "'Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list'" <reflector at tvbf.org>
Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 9:25 PM
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: paint


>
http://www.performancecoatings.dupont.com/bowstreet5/webengine/dpc/common/Co
> ntroller
>
> http://www.pwpaints.com/
>
>
> http://www.sikkens.com/
>
>
> Doug,
> Here are 3 web sites to look at.  2 stage DuPont autopaint has the UV in 
> its
> clear coat.  I used a cheaper primer from Akzo Nobel that had no UV in any
> of it.  The base primer was a thicker primer/filler and then we put a 
> primer
> sealer on top of that which provides some nice sheen if you are going to
> stay in primer for a while. That primer sealer was designed to be top 
> coated
> within 72 hours as I recall.
>
> If you went single stage for final top coat it would obviously be in that
> layer.  I am not aware that anybody's primer that would have UV block in 
> it,
> but the chemistry from product line to product line and from company to
> company can make your head spin.
>
> I used 2 stage Dupont auto paint.  Others have gone single stage.   I
> purchased locally, and I would encourage that because you will have
> questions and need a place with good customer focus. That said mine has
> chipped around the doors some.  If you have the money to go with aviation
> paint it might be better hold up better, but application is more tricky 
> with
> that stuff or so I am told...I'll take repairing my chips over fighting 
> with
> orange peel.
>
> Good luck. It is very confusing, and remember ease of application is a
> player if you have less than ideal conditions or experience.
> Terry
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] On
> Behalf Of doug.holub at tx.rr.com
> Sent: Sunday, March 09, 2008 8:12 PM
> To: reflector at tvbf.org
> Subject: REFLECTOR: paint
>
> I'm getting a little confused with the paint options. I've looked at
> Awlgrip, PPG, and DuPont. Could somebody give me a part number for a UV
> blocking primer and a top coat from the same manufacturer and where I can
> buy them?
>
> By the way, I figured out a solution to my leaking fuel tank problem. I'm
> going to fill the strakes with lithium-ion batteries and put an electric
> motor under the cowl.
>
> Doug Holub
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