REFLECTOR: For the Collective, HID light -- FG New Shock Installation

doug.holub at tx.rr.com doug.holub at tx.rr.com
Sun Jul 20 13:06:32 CDT 2008


I installed the AeroSun LED landing light and didn't do a very good job. It is rectangular and my hole is round and I put it in there a little crooked. (Here's some pictures:   http://websites.expercraft.com/dholub/index.php?q=log_entry&log_id=25854  ) The installation was difficult, and now I wish that I had waited until a round, drop in replacement LED landing light was available, like Whelen has now. The round ones look great now, but are still unacceptably expensive to me.

I love how bright the AeroSun is and how little current it uses and the fact that it is all simple low voltage and that it has a built in flashing mode. I have a 3-position toggle switch that turns it on, makes it flash, or turns it off.

Doug
---- Andy Millin <amillin at sbcglobal.net> wrote: 
> I have a couple things I thought I would share.
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> Item 1:  New nose gear shock
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> Item 2: HID landing light (for under $100)
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> New Gear Shock
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> I have completed installation.  I have posted pictures on my website.  It
> looks like this is a winner.
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> A tip for installation:  When the nose gear wheel and fork are in the
> standard “trailing” position, the moment or force on the gear shock is
> relatively small.  In this position, the contact point of the tire is just
> slightly ahead of the canard bulkhead.
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> If the wheel and fork are turned 180 degrees (pointing straight ahead), the
> moment and pressure on the shock is tremendous.
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> So 
 install the shim and shock, install the cross bolt and gear leg,
> install the nose gear fork and tire,  turn the tire until it points straight
> ahead, gently lower the weight of the aircraft onto the backward tire.
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> Carlos came over and helped me install.  I was in the plane.  I had 80 lb.
> of weight on the co-pilot side.  Carlos was outside the aircraft leaning on
> the Canard Bulkhead.  In this configuration, the nose gear was spongy.  The
> shock was compressed a good ¼” beyond what we needed to install the
> Captivator Plate.  We put the Captivator in place and bolted it up.  At this
> point I was sure this was going way too easy.
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> After installation we turned the tire 180 into the trailing position.  The
> gear leg was immediately firm.  With Carlos on the CBH, the weight on the CP
> side and me in the plane, the leg was snug against the Captivator.
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> If you are going to install, I highly recommend this method.
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> HID
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> I have been looking at converting my incandescent landing light to something
> more powerful.  
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> HID has two advantages:
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> It produces a great deal more light  (around 10x the photons)
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> It draws a great deal less electricity.  (approx 3 amps)
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> The downsides are: 
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> It takes about 5 seconds from the time the switch is thrown until it reaches
> full brightness (a non-issue in my estimation for my purpose)
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> You have the extra weight of the ballast.  Extra weight is never a good
> thing on an aircraft.  The ballast might weigh 4-5 ounces, and I’m willing
> to accept it.
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> HID requires high voltage (15K-20K volts) to ignite.  During ignition (5-10)
> seconds, the high voltage can create radio noise
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> Other considerations:
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>                 I really want an installation that does not require
> modification of the current landing light.  I want it to “drop in”
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>                 Current Aviation HID systems that would “drop in” run in the
> $300-$500 range.  For me, the benefits just aren’t worth $500.  I want a
> photon cannon, but not that badly.
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> The Internet has enabled me to waste a great deal of time educating myself
> on this subject.  >.< 
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> I’m going to share what I have learned so I can comfort myself that it was
> time well spent.  :)
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> Automotive HID systems are very durable and should perform well in our
> aircraft.  Life expectancy on the bulbs is around 3000 hours (lifetime of
> the aircraft).  They handle shock and vibration well.
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> Our factory incandescent is a 100W  PAR-36.  Parabolic Aluminized Reflector,
> 36 eights of an inch in diameter.  :)
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> It is a focused beam with a dispersion somewhere in the neighborhood of 10
> degrees horizontal and 10 degrees vertical.  I don’t have the exact numbers,
> but I’m sure I’m close.    Essentially it is a spot light, not a flood
> light.
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> HID Bulbs/Systems come in a lot of flavors.  A quick search of the net will
> turn up cheap halogen to HID conversion kits.  You can get two bulbs, two
> ballasts, and two wiring harnesses for around $110.  You will see them
> listed as: H1/H3/H4/H7/H11/H13/9005/9006/9007  These are bulb types.  For
> the most part, a ballast will drive any one of the types.
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> One of the bulbs might look like this:
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> There are two flavors of conversion kits.  Cheap flavor mentioned above and
> expensive flavor (no middle).  The expensive conversion kits do run in the
> $300-$500 range.  I was ready to pull the trigger on a cheap kit, but
> couldn’t bring myself to do it.  I didn’t know why there were two prices
> ranges.  There had to be a difference, and the difference could make all the
> difference.  :p
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> The cheap systems above (H1/H3/H4/H7/H11/H13/9005/9006/9007)  Can be
> produced cheaply because they build the igniter into the ballast.  Lower
> parts count and all that.  Downside: it makes them EMI noisy. 
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> The expensive systems used bulbs D1S/D1R/D2S/D2R/D3S/D3R/D4S/D4R.  These “D”
> system have moved the igniter to a small module that joins directly with the
> bulb.  It looks like this:
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> http://img.alibaba.com/photo/11056277/Auto_HID_Xenon_OEM_Bulb.jpg 
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> D1S on left, D1R on right.  Notice the clip on the “R”  (it looks like it
> could be easily removed)
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> The name of the bulb has some significance:  Letter “D”, Number (1-4),
> followed by S or R.
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>                 “D” means Dual Pole.  Look closely at the bulb.  It has two
> compartments.  It also has the rod coming from the base of the bulb and
> attaching at the top.
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>                 1-4 refers to the gas used (Mercury, Xenon, etc.).
> Actually, if you want to talk tech, it is called a “Capsule”
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>                 S is Straight, or Standard, R is Reflective or Reflector.
> “R” type Capsules will have a metal band around the base that blocks light.
> It is intended to keep high beams from overlapping the low beam and causing
> glare.  I’m not sure, but the metal band on the “R” might be a clip that can
> just be pulled off???
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> D series don’t have the high voltage line from the ballast to the bulb.
> From what I have read, it is noise free 
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 expensive 
 
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> If you look up  XeVision at http://www.xevision.com/  Look for the landing
> light conversion kit.  They use a D1S bulb and they want $499 for the 35W
> version.  For one light.
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> You might also see “digital ballast” advertised.  By using a computer to
> control the ballast, it is possible to bring the light online a little
> faster and shut it down in such a way as to extend the bulb life a bit.  For
> my purposes it wasn’t anything to go out of my way for.  The light will come
> online in plenty of time no matter what, and the bulb is probably going to
> last longer than I need it anyway.
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> Once the research on HID was done, I knew what the difference was and I knew
> what I wanted.  It was also pretty easy to find.  If you look on the eBay,
> you will find complete systems with two of everything (removed from
> automotive) for under $200.  A pretty good deal.  You can probably find
> someone to split the set with you.
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> These systems can be found on the Internet and in salvage yards.  If the
> bulb type is not known, look to see if the igniter is attached to the bulb.
> If it is, you should be good-to-go.
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> I purchased my system on ebay.  Check out this store:
> http://myworld.ebay.com/allstarautosalvage
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> They sell salvaged headlight units.  Many have a broken tab or a cracked
> enclosure.  I didn’t need the headlight, I wanted the guts.  He lists the
> headlight by make, model and year.  It is important that it is listed as
> “HID/Xenon components included”; they aren’t always.  I found a Corvette
> headlight, 2001-2005 with the goodies; lower mounting tab was broken.   A
> little more research and I confirmed the high beam for that model/year was a
> D1S HID.
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> I bought the thing and had it for $39; including shipping.  Everything
> worked like a champ.  They were quality OSRAM components.  I stole it.
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> He currently has a Toyota Avalon headlight for sale:
> http://tinyurl.com/59f2zy  It contains all the HID goodies (I’m pretty sure
> this is a D1R).  D1R and D1S bulbs are interchangeable.
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> Here is a complete OSRAM system, same as mine, shown working, on the bay
> http://tinyurl.com/5fsykd 
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> The part that is not so easy to find is the PAR-36 reflector with the focal
> dimension we need.  I could not find a spot on XeVision’s site where you
> could just purchase the PAR-36.  I was not deterred.  I downloaded the
> Interwebs and searched it.  :)
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> http://www.duckworksav.com/upgrades.html   
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> Duckworks sells light upgrade kits for RVs.  Their landing light is the same
> PAR-36 we use.
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> Don Wentz is the owner.  Nice guy.  He will sell you just the PAR-36,
> modified for the D1S HID.  It was $53 delivered.
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> Don also has a very reasonable kit, with the D1S HID, ballast, cable and
> reflector for $290 (if you want to go that way)
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>  It has a special machined fitting on the back to hold the igniter.  It is a
> very nice piece.  This is what my installation looks like.
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>  <http://www.kal-soft.com/velocity/images/pic1294l.jpg> Click to Enlarge
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> Retract guys will need to do some extra work.  I believe the nose gear comes
> very close to the landing light and it could interfere with the igniter.
> Another good reason to get fixed gear .    O_o
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> With a little looking and some patients, I have an HID photon cannon for
> around $100.  The sucker is VERY bright.  I fired it up and it was like
> Rudolph.  People were shielding their eyes and telling me to “turn that
> thing down.”  In the plane, there is so much light that the nose glows; at
> least until I get some paint on it.
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> I hope you found this entertaining, and possibly useful.
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> Andy
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> Andy Millin
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> amillin at sbcglobal.net
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