REFLECTOR: Accident/Incident

Chuck Jensen cjensen at dts9000.com
Tue Jan 29 05:48:47 CST 2008


John,
 
Good flying and piloting, especially considering the very brief familiarization period you've had with the plane.  Good news that the fixing won't be too big of an undertaking.  We're very interested in what you find on the engine stoppage.  The many safe things we do today stand on the foundation of experience, both good and not so good.  We look forward to your postings. 
 

Chuck Jensen 

-----Original Message-----
From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org]On Behalf Of JOHN LUNNING
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 11:43 PM
To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Accident/Incident




Most don't know me and I just got back on to Reflector, but yes the second flight of my plane didn't go as well as the 1st. Note one-Do not buy a Crossflow Engine. The short story is after a good takeoff and initial climb, the engine gave out at about 400 feet. I turned to the first field that caught my eye and committed to it. I kept my airspeed right and touch down was smooth. My only problem was a couple fences between touch down and being stopped. Fortunately, the Velocity is a pretty tough plane. I experience several leading edge impacts from fence post, but nothing that can't be repaired. There was no structural damage that I have found yet. 2 hours after the landing I had the plane back in its stall. At this time I have no ideal why the engine quit. I'll be looking into that this weekend. Needless to say, I won't have a 3rd flight until I have a reliable engine. 
 
If anyone is interested, I can now give some valuable input on how to best deal with a power loss after departure.
John Lunning




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From: sbakr at comcast.net
To: reflector at tvbf.org
Date: Mon, 28 Jan 2008 18:22:43 -0500
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Accident/Incident


What bad news!  I have not heard from John - but he recently sent an email and photos of his completed project - and was so happy to have finally finished building and now flying.  John had a Crossflow Subaru (300hp??) engine.  He had a devil of a time getting everything straight with Crossflow - and at one time was considering abandoning the Subaru engine for something else.  I know nothing about the incident.  I had hoped to talk with John about his experiences with the Crossflow - because Crossflow has a terrible reputation for delivering products that do not work; backed by poor customer service.  If the forced landing is because of the engine, I'm sure John will have stories to tell.
SB
 

----- Original Message ----- 
From: steve  <mailto:s_korney at hotmail.com> korney 
To: Reflector Reflector <mailto:reflector at tvbf.org>  
Sent: Monday, January 28, 2008 1:08 PM
Subject: REFLECTOR: Accident/Incident


Anyone know anything about these.....?



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**   Report created 1/28/2008   Record 4                                     **
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IDENTIFICATION
  Regis#: 44VL        Make/Model: EXP       Description: VELOCITY 173/FG-XL 
  Date: 01/28/2008     Time: 0050

  Event Type: Incident   Highest Injury: None     Mid Air: N    Missing: N
  Damage: Minor

LOCATION
  City: NEW BRAUNFELS   State: TX   Country: US

DESCRIPTION
  AIRCRAFT LOST POWER ON TAKE-OFF, LANDED IN A FIELD, NEW BRAUNFELS, TX

INJURY DATA      Total Fatal:   0
                 # Crew:   1     Fat:   0     Ser:   0     Min:   0     Unk:    
                 # Pass:   0     Fat:   0     Ser:   0     Min:   0     Unk:    
                 # Grnd:         Fat:   0     Ser:   0     Min:   0     Unk:    

WEATHER: 272351Z 12007KT 10SM CLR 18/07 A3017

OTHER DATA


  FAA FSDO: SAN ANTONIO, TX  (SW17)               Entry date: 01/28/2008 

N-number                       : N44VL
Aircraft Serial Number         : 3FX003
Aircraft Manufacturer          : LUNNING JOHN R
         Model                 : 173/FG-XL
Aircraft Year                  :     
Owner Name                     : LUNNING JOHN R
Owner Address                  : 15431 RIVER BND
                                 SAN ANTONIO, TX, 78247-2918
Type of Owner                  : Individual
Registration Date              : 21-Dec-2005
Airworthiness Certificate Type : Not Specified

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**   Report created 1/28/2008   Record 5                                      **
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IDENTIFICATION
  Regis#: 77VX        Make/Model: EXP       Description: VELOCITY 173RG ELITE
  Date: 01/27/2008     Time: 2138

  Event Type: Incident   Highest Injury: None     Mid Air: N    Missing: N
  Damage: Unknown

LOCATION
  City: SANTA FE   State: NM   Country: US

DESCRIPTION
  AIRCRAFT CRASHED ON DEPARTURE FROM RUNWAY20, SANTA FE, NM

INJURY DATA      Total Fatal:   0
                 # Crew:   1     Fat:   0     Ser:   0     Min:   0     Unk:    
                 # Pass:   0     Fat:   0     Ser:   0     Min:   0     Unk:    
                 # Grnd:         Fat:   0     Ser:   0     Min:   0     Unk:    

WEATHER: 272141Z 00000KT 10SM CLR 08/M08 A3012

OTHER DATA


  FAA FSDO: ALBUQUERQUE, NM  (SW01)               Entry date: 01/28/2008 

N-number                       : N77VX
Aircraft Serial Number         : 3RE-423
Aircraft Manufacturer          : MOYA ADELINO
         Model                 : VELOCITY 173RG ELITE
Engine   Manufacturer          : SUBARU
         Model                 : ALL MDLS A/B
Aircraft Year                  : 2003
Owner Name                     : MOYA ADELINO
Owner Address                  : 5619 MARIOLA PL NE
                                 ALBUQUERQUE, NM, 87111-8332
Type of Owner                  : Individual
Registration Date              : 14-Jul-2003
Airworthiness Certificate Type : Experimental
Approved Operations            : Amateur Built


Best... Steve

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