REFLECTOR: A long sad story

Wed Apr 9 18:18:19 CDT 2008

I had a similar experience.  I hired Steve to come up to Granby, CO to do 
first flight and to provide transition training.  After Monday -Thursday of 
sick excuses I forced the first flight.  It was brief but successful, thank 
God.  He was too sick to go up later that day or for Friday.  When I took 
him to the airport on Saturday, he was too drunk to get on a plane.  I later 
got my training at the factory - a much better move.

Mac asked me not to put it on the Reflector and Steve said that he now had 
it all together so I let it ride.  It was a mistake on my part not to share 
the story.  Steve needs serious professional help and I hope he gets it 
soon - before he kills himself and/or someone else.  Jerry Teitsma

Jerry Teitsma, RRC, RRO, CCCA
RCI, Inc
PO Box 796, Granby CO 80446 (USPS mail/shipping)
36 Lodgepole Ct, Granby CO 80446 (UPS/FedEx shipping)
970-887-3910 (Phone/Fax)
jerryteits at comcast.net

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>   1. Re:  I checked the DeltaHawk site (Laurence Coen)
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>   3. Re:  A long sad story (Al Gietzen)
>   4. Re:  humidity and baffle thickness (John Tvedte)
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> Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 12:07:49 -0500
> From: "Laurence Coen" <lwcoen at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: I checked the DeltaHawk site
> To: "Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list" <reflector at tvbf.org>
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> I sure hope that they finally make it.  I was holding a position back in 
> '95 when I bought my kit.  I think that Doug is determined to do it right 
> and that is why it's taken so long.
>
> Larry Coen
> N136LC
>  ----- Original Message ----- 
>  From: Andy Millin
>  To: 'Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list'
>  Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 8:55 AM
>  Subject: REFLECTOR: I checked the DeltaHawk site
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>
>  It's been a bit slow on the Reflector.
>
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>  Anyone at SNF, we would love to hear any news.
>
>
>
>  For grins, I checked the DeltaHawk site this morning.
>
>
>
>  They are announcing certification of an engine:  "Change date of 
> Certification to beginning of 2009"
>
>
>
>  ========================
>
>
>
>  DeltaHawk is on its way to type certification of the DH-180A4 engine (180 
> HP).  An FAA
>  Designated Engineering Representative consulting group, The DERs Group, 
> has been engaged to
>  manage and direct the process.  Current estimates are to achieve Type 
> Certification (TC) as early
>  as the beginning of 2009.
>
>
>
>  =========================
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>
>
>  There is a note in the history that Beta test engines were to begin 
> delivery in 2003.  Like many others, I would be happy to hear news of 
> actual engine deliveries.  It could be a great thing for GA.
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>  FWIW,
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>  Andy
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> Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 13:34:04 -0400
> From: "Ron Brown" <romott at mi-connection.com>
> Subject: REFLECTOR: Sun-n-Fun
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> Speaking of news from Sun-n-Fun, check this out. 
> http://www.freedom-aviation.com/exterior.htm  There was a picture of it on 
> the Avweb site this morning - a Google search found them.
>
> I talked to these folks about 4 years ago about their developing a 
> stretched "Velocity" - 6 passengers and 1500 lb payload, etc.
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> Ronnie
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> Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 09:40:25 -0800
> From: "Al Gietzen" <ALVentures at cox.net>
> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: A long sad story
> To: <djroyer at earthlink.net>, "'Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders
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> Don;
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> It's not a new story; I had similar problems a year and a half ago when he
> was coming here to do transistion training with me.  Perhaps I should have
> spoken up - saved you some headaches.  Too bad; a lot of skill being 
> wasted.
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> Al
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> From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] On
> Behalf Of Donald Royer
> Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 8:27 AM
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> Subject: REFLECTOR: A long sad story
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> This is very difficult for me to write this post , because in the past he
> has been very helpful and I have considered him to be a friend, but I feel
> that I must tell the Velocity community about recent trouble with Steve
> Murphree. Those of you that know Steve know that he has a problem and is
> sometimes irresponsible, but in the past I have always found that, with a
> little patience, things would eventually get done. However, that seems to
> have changed, and I find his behavior for the last month to be completely
> unacceptable.
>
>
>
> It all started when I lost my medical and decided to sell my Velocity. 
> Steve
> knew that I wanted to sell and found a buyer and demonstrated the plane 
> for
> him. The plane was sold and the understanding between Steve and the buyer
> was that Steve would deliver the plane, give him transition training in 
> it,
> and possibly do some modification work on it. There were a couple of minor
> things that I wanted to fix on the plane before I let it go, and it was
> agreed that Steve and I would take care of these things the next working 
> day
> and Steve would deliver the plane the day after that. That was a month ago
> and airplane has not been delivered and is still in my hangar.
>
>
>
> The trouble started the day that we were to get the plane ready to 
> deliver.
> That morning, I paid him a commission for his help in selling the plane 
> and
> we went to work on the plane. That afternoon I had an appointment and left
> for a couple of hours and when I came back I found Steve drinking on the
> job. That is the first time that he ever did that with me.
>
>
>
> Since that time it has been a continuous round of excuses and broken
> promises  as to why nothing has been done. He has promised at least six
> times that the plane would go the next day , the last time was five days
> ago, and every time he would come up some feeble excuse or simply 
> disappear
> for a few days. Sometimes his excuse was that the weather was bad, but he 
> is
> an ATP pilot and the plane is IFR equipped and certified, and in any 
> event,
> there have been any number of VFR days. Recently he has apparently been
> telling people that it is because the plane in too heavy and the runway is
> too short. However, he loaded the plane himself, it is at the very least 
> 150
> pounds below gross, and the runway is 4800 feet long. He called me 
> yesterday
> morning at eight thirty in the morning to tell me that he was sick and 
> would
> not be going today. He sounded either drunk or sick. I don't know which.
> Incidentally, this is the third time that he has claimed to ! be sick. I
> have not heard from him today.
>
>
>
> It has been apparent for some time that he has been telling me, the buyer,
> and even his dad completely different stories as to what is going on. The
> buyer has been remarkably patient, but he is getting very unhappy and I do
> not blame him.
>
>
>
> In retrospect, apparently Steve found a girl friend here and has had no
> intention of leaving until the money ran out. I know how much I paid him 
> and
> I would have though that it  would gone by now.
>
>
>
> Any suggestions as to how the buyer can get his plane ferried from 
> Longmont
> CO to Plainview TX and get transition training would be appreciated.
>
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> Don Royer
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> Date: Wed, 9 Apr 2008 14:42:15 -0500
> From: John Tvedte <johnt at comp-sol.com>
> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: humidity and baffle thickness
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> Pretty sure I remember reading that humidity is required for Jeffco to 
> cure....
>
> Of course, I'm not 100% sure - so - I'd either call the factory, or call a 
> support Engr. at Jeffco.
>
> John
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> doug.holub at tx.rr.com [doug.holub at tx.rr.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, April 09, 2008 9:55 AM
> To: reflector at tvbf.org
> Subject: REFLECTOR: humidity and baffle thickness
>
> I'm re-sealing my fuel tanks this week and I'm a little paranoid. It's 
> raining in Dallas today. Is there any problem using Jeffco (or EZ-Poxy) 
> when the humidity is high?
>
> On another subject, I think I'm just going to make aluminum engine baffles 
> instead of using the factory's plenum and runners. Can anyone recommend a 
> material thickness? I'm thinking around .020 or .025.
>
> Doug Holub
> Standard FG 90% done, 20% to go
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