REFLECTOR: Reflector Digest, Vol 41, Issue 25- Float balls
Mark Riley
anriley at comcast.net
Fri Oct 12 19:12:09 CDT 2007
I also used the float balls from Fletch air. I simply cut a small scrap of
stainless mesh left over from my wife's kitchen strainer which met its end
in service of my fuel strake construction. I put a small section in the
bottom of the tubing, dropped in the ball and put another in the top section
and attached the tubing to the fittings. I cut the scraps square and the
edges flexed against the edges of the tubing and held the screens perfectly
in place.
Mark Riley
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Loaner prop (Scott Derrick)
2. Float Balls and U-cup seals (Tom)
3. Re: Float Balls and U-cup seals (Brian Michalk)
4. Re: Loaner prop (Scott Baker)
5. Leaky Master Brake Cylinders (Brian Michalk)
6. Velocity University - Builders Symposium (Scott Baker)
7. Re: Leaky Master Brake Cylinders (Oskar)
8. Re: Float Balls and U-cup seals (Jorge Bujanda)
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Message: 1
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 13:35:06 -0600
From: Scott Derrick <scott at tnstaafl.net>
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Loaner prop
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HYTEC45 at aol.com wrote:
> Surely not 1" though. Put a thin bead of permatex inside of the crank
> against the shoulder the plug seats against.
Hmmmm..... I've been advised by two A&P/IA's not to do that...
I put one in my IO360 every 2 years, no permetex, no leaks. Put a new
one in my TSIO520, no permetex, no leak.
It "probably" won't hurt anything.
Scott
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Message: 2
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 16:38:25 -0400
From: Tom <tomcat05 at comcast.net>
Subject: REFLECTOR: Float Balls and U-cup seals
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Purchased the float balls and seals from Fletchair. (took 3 attempts
before I got them uncrushed as they were simply putting them in a
stamped envelope). The float balls are way too small to place in tubes
without the cup seals. Problem is that the cup seals are simply too
large. The 3/8" hose that we use will not fit over the seals. Anyone
successfully used these with the stock hose??? thx Tom
p.s. in the interim I'm testing small fishing floats, shellaced wood
beads and painted corks (have them all sitting in avgas)--has anyone
gone outside the box on this and tried something other than the float balls?
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Message: 3
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 15:53:17 -0500
From: Brian Michalk <michalk at awpi.com>
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Float Balls and U-cup seals
To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list <reflector at tvbf.org>
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Take some safety wire or other springy non-corroding (stainless) wire.
Get about two inches. Make a coil in the middle like a spring.
Slip your spring into the brass fitting, and now the ball can't go past.
Tom wrote:
> Purchased the float balls and seals from Fletchair. (took 3 attempts
> before I got them uncrushed as they were simply putting them in a
> stamped envelope). The float balls are way too small to place in tubes
> without the cup seals. Problem is that the cup seals are simply too
> large. The 3/8" hose that we use will not fit over the seals. Anyone
> successfully used these with the stock hose??? thx Tom
> p.s. in the interim I'm testing small fishing floats, shellaced wood
> beads and painted corks (have them all sitting in avgas)--has anyone
> gone outside the box on this and tried something other than the float
balls?
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Message: 4
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 17:21:52 -0400
From: "Scott Baker" <sbakr at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Loaner prop
To: <velocity at davebiz.com>, "Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders
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Dave,
Please give Art Jones (Velocity) a call to fill him in in your contact
information.
772-589-1860.
Thanks,
Scott Baker
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From: "Dave Philipsen" <velocity at davebiz.com>
To: <reflector at tvbf.org>
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 12:35 PM
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Loaner prop
> Hi, Travis. Once again, thanks for your generosity. I spoke with Scott
> this morning and gave him shipping instructions. It's really comforting
> to know that there are people out there, like you, who are so willing to
> help out in a sticky situation!
>
> Dave Philipsen
> Velocity STD-FG
> N83DP
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Travis Holland <htcruiser at yahoo.com>
> Date: Friday, Oct 12, 2007 9:32 am
> Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Loaner prop
> To: velocity at davebiz.com, Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
> <reflector at tvbf.org>Reply-To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
> <reflector at tvbf.org>
>
>
>>
>>Hi Dave: I took the prop- get home kit over to Scott Baker this morning.
>>He has it packaged and ready to send to you. He just needs shipping
>>instructions. I also included a socket type allen wench to remove the
>>welch plug in the crankchaft. I put in a 2' freeze plug to put in the end
>>of the crankshaft. it's not the concave type which is better but this one
>>will get you home. Also included is a prop extension and bolts. This prop
>>is new but not the smoothest one we have ever tried. . Let me know if we
>>can be of further assistance...Travis
>>
>>Dave Philipsen <velocity at davebiz.com> wrote: I'll measure mine and let
>>you know. From my recollection of what the hole looked like when I pulled
>>the prop off I would say it's larger than one inch. Thanks for the tip on
>>the sealer.
>>
>>Dave Philipsen
>>Velocity STD-FG
>>N83DP
>>-----Original Message-----
>>From: HYTEC45 at aol.com
>>Date: Friday, Oct 12, 2007 8:26 am
>>Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Loaner prop
>>To: reflector at tvbf.orgReply-To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
>>
>>
>>>In a message dated 10/12/2007 5:19:27 A.M. Pacific Daylight Time,
>>scott at tnstaafl.net writes:
>> I
>>can't remember off hand what the 360 crank uses. My 520 had a 1.25" one,
>>I think the 360 is 1".
>> Hmmm, I'd check that out. The 360 should be the same as the 520. Surely
>>not 1" though. Put a thin bead of permatex inside of the crank against the
>>shoulder the plug seats against.
>>
>>TEC
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Message: 5
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 16:25:20 -0500
From: Brian Michalk <michalk at awpi.com>
Subject: REFLECTOR: Leaky Master Brake Cylinders
To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list <reflector at tvbf.org>
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My master cylinders leak a few drops per day. I took them apart to
figure out where it's coming from. The best I can figure is it's the
screw that goes in from the bottom. It looks like this screw is to keep
the assembly from exiting the cylinder.
When I re-assembled them, I put a small gasket on the screw. That
didn't work.
I think the tip is bottoming out in the housing, which keeps the head
from getting tight.
I was thinking about shaving off a few thousandths of the length of the
screw. Any other suggestions?
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Message: 6
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 17:41:58 -0400
From: "Scott Baker" <sbakr at comcast.net>
Subject: REFLECTOR: Velocity University - Builders Symposium
To: "Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list" <reflector at tvbf.org>
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Today marks the 2-week countdown to the Velocity University builder's
symposium in Sebastian, FL (Oct. 26, 27, and 28).
I am looking forward to hearing Sid Siddiqi, the featured speaker at the
Saturday dinner - who will talk about general aviation travel to S. America
and the use of small aircraft for personal transportation. Sid is a
familiar spokesperson for NCAM and SATS; and a true believer of using small
aircraft for personal transportation. If you have not met Sid at Oshokosh
or Sun n Fun - don't miss his intellegent and entertaining talk Saturday
evening.
Check out the latest speaker list at www.velocityuniversity.com. Doug Doers
will be speaking about the Deltahawk aero diesel engine program. Recent
additions also include representatives from Electronics International ;
Aerosonic (Op Technologies); and Falcon aircraft insurance.
There are many exhibitors that will be showing products who will not
(unfortunately) have time to speak in a classroom setting.
The wx and temps in central Florida are wonderful!
Don't miss this opportunity to meet many knowledgeable and friendly Velocity
people.
The program is currently at two-thirds capacity - there is room for about 40
additional guests to join the program.
If you have not pre-registered, please do so now by calling Art Jones at
772-589-1860.
We are looking forward to seeing everyone and having a great time!
Scott B.
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Message: 7
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 17:37:18 -0400 (GMT-04:00)
From: Oskar <3d_emc at earthlink.net>
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Leaky Master Brake Cylinders
To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list <reflector at tvbf.org>
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Hi Brian, I believe that instead of gasket need an "O" ring. (at least in
mine was like that)
Good luck
Oscar
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>From: Brian Michalk <michalk at awpi.com>
>Sent: Oct 12, 2007 5:25 PM
>To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list <reflector at tvbf.org>
>Subject: REFLECTOR: Leaky Master Brake Cylinders
>
>My master cylinders leak a few drops per day. I took them apart to
>figure out where it's coming from. The best I can figure is it's the
>screw that goes in from the bottom. It looks like this screw is to keep
>the assembly from exiting the cylinder.
>
>When I re-assembled them, I put a small gasket on the screw. That
>didn't work.
>
>I think the tip is bottoming out in the housing, which keeps the head
>from getting tight.
>
>I was thinking about shaving off a few thousandths of the length of the
>screw. Any other suggestions?
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Message: 8
Date: Fri, 12 Oct 2007 15:18:23 -0700
From: "Jorge Bujanda" <bujanda at dslextreme.com>
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Float Balls and U-cup seals
To: "'Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list'"
<reflector at tvbf.org>
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Tom,
Here is an easy solution I used. I glued MS21042-3 metal stop nuts inside
all the 3/8"
elbow sight gauge fittings to keep the balls from entering the tanks.
See picture under FUEL SYSTEM / FUEL STRAKES / RIGHT STRAKE / 11. Fuel Sight
Gauge photo 3
at: http://members.dslextreme.com/users/jbujanda/Construction.html#Fuel
Regards,
Jorge Bujanda
Velocity XL FG
Palmdale, CA
Website: http://members.dslextreme.com/users/jbujanda/
"Make your best case... not the best case."
"Spare the noise... convince through silence."
JB
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From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] On
Behalf Of Tom
Sent: Friday, October 12, 2007 1:38 PM
To: reflector at tvbf.org
Subject: REFLECTOR: Float Balls and U-cup seals
Purchased the float balls and seals from Fletchair. (took 3 attempts
before I got them uncrushed as they were simply putting them in a
stamped envelope). The float balls are way too small to place in tubes
without the cup seals. Problem is that the cup seals are simply too
large. The 3/8" hose that we use will not fit over the seals. Anyone
successfully used these with the stock hose??? thx Tom
p.s. in the interim I'm testing small fishing floats, shellaced wood
beads and painted corks (have them all sitting in avgas)--has anyone
gone outside the box on this and tried something other than the float balls?
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