REFLECTOR: Reflector Digest, Vol 41, Issue 16- Ceramic coating as alternative to wraps
Mark Riley
anriley at comcast.net
Tue Oct 9 16:00:26 CDT 2007
I had my exhausts ceramic coated inside and out by Jet Hot. They do nice
work, offer a number of finishes and it lowered my CHT's and oil temps.
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1. Re: Looking for someone with a Trutrak Autopilot installed
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3. Re: Thermal exhaust Wrap (Scott Derrick)
4. antenna ? (Tom)
5. Thermal exhaust Wrap (Tom)
6. Re: Thermal exhaust Wrap (Dave Philipsen)
7. Re: Thermal exhaust Wrap (Andy Millin)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 8 Oct 2007 19:09:37 -0700
From: "Keith Hallsten" <KeithHallsten at quiknet.com>
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Looking for someone with a Trutrak Autopilot
installed on a Velocity Standard or Elite
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Tom,
I'm also installing a TT autopilot (ADI Pilot 2) in my XL FG, so I would
like see your photos, too! KeithHallsten "at" quiknet "dot" com
Thanks!
Keith Hallsten
Roseville, CA
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I just installed one back in August (standard fg). I've not had much
luck posting photos here so I'll PM you a couple of shots. Tom
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Message: 2
Date: Mon, 08 Oct 2007 23:59:23 -0500
From: Dave Philipsen <velocity at davebiz.com>
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Thermal exhaust Wrap
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I have a Lycoming with armpit scoops and I used the thermal wrap on my
pipes. I also did a lot of work on the baffling so I can't say whether
the wrap did much. I was able to reduce my CHTs by around 40-50 degrees
and after the engine has been running you can grab the exhaust pipe with
your hand and it won't burn you.
Michael Watson wrote:
> Has anyone, especially those with Franklin engine and
> arm pit scoops, wrapped their SS muffler with thermal
> shield wrap to reduce the build up of heat on long taxis.
>
> If yes, how well dose it work, is there any drawbacks or
> adverse effects I should be worried about?
>
> I know they can be thermal coated with a ceramic finish,
> but I hate to dismantle the entire system send it out
> then reassemble it. Lazy I quest.
>
> Thanks,
>
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> Mike W.
> 1997 Velocity Elite RG
> Franklin /IVO Electric CS
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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 06:07:09 -0600
From: Scott Derrick <scott at tnstaafl.net>
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Thermal exhaust Wrap
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Dave Philipsen wrote:
> and after the engine has been running you can grab the exhaust pipe with
> your hand and it won't burn you.
thats a really good thing. Right after the first engine run on my
engine, I was peering into the hose jungle trying to see where an oil
leak was coming from and yep, grabbed the exhaust stack right where I
had been hanging onto it for 6 months, yow!!! 3 weeks later I'm still
peeling...
Scott
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 09:16:41 -0400
From: Tom <tomcat05 at comcast.net>
Subject: REFLECTOR: antenna ?
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Advanced electronics com antenna ( Spruce and Gulf Coast Avionics carry
them). listing below.
I ran it from ceiling to floor at the space between the front windscreen
and co-pilot side window.
http://www.gulf-coast-avionics.com/detail/4402/Antenna/Advanced%5FElectronic
s/VHF%2D5T/
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Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 09:21:36 -0400
From: Tom <tomcat05 at comcast.net>
Subject: REFLECTOR: Thermal exhaust Wrap
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Ceramic coating is the long term way to go,( you can also coat the
inside) The wrap will work but has two drawbacks:
1) It will greatly curtail the life of your exhaust system
2) you need to play with it every so often as it will start falling
apart in spots
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 10:50:02 -0500
From: Dave Philipsen <velocity at davebiz.com>
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Thermal exhaust Wrap
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How does it curtail the life of the exhaust system?
Tom wrote:
> Ceramic coating is the long term way to go,( you can also coat the
> inside) The wrap will work but has two drawbacks:
> 1) It will greatly curtail the life of your exhaust system
> 2) you need to play with it every so often as it will start falling
> apart in spots
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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 9 Oct 2007 12:12:20 -0400
From: "Andy Millin" <amillin at sbcglobal.net>
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Thermal exhaust Wrap
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It will have a tendency to hold moisture in and can promote corrosion. It
will also hold all the heat against the pipes. The ceramic will insulate
and keep the heat from getting into the metal.
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How does it curtail the life of the exhaust system?
Tom wrote:
> Ceramic coating is the long term way to go,( you can also coat the
> inside) The wrap will work but has two drawbacks:
> 1) It will greatly curtail the life of your exhaust system
> 2) you need to play with it every so often as it will start falling
> apart in spots
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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 11:28:14 -0500
From: "Alex Balic" <velocity_pilot at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Thermal exhaust Wrap
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A similar experience led me to wrap my pipes as well- didn't grab
fortunately, but got me pretty good- you know that pipe didn't "look"
hot...... :) really, I was more worried about proximity to fuel lines, pumps
and wiring- I have a turbo, so the exhaust runs up between the firewall and
the engine- just warm to the touch now.....
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Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 7:07 AM
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Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Thermal exhaust Wrap
Dave Philipsen wrote:
> and after the engine has been running you can grab the exhaust pipe with
> your hand and it won't burn you.
thats a really good thing. Right after the first engine run on my
engine, I was peering into the hose jungle trying to see where an oil
leak was coming from and yep, grabbed the exhaust stack right where I
had been hanging onto it for 6 months, yow!!! 3 weeks later I'm still
peeling...
Scott
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Message: 9
Date: Tue, 09 Oct 2007 11:41:18 -0500
From: "Alex Balic" <velocity_pilot at verizon.net>
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Thermal exhaust Wrap
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I ceramic coated my exhaust before wrapping it- it still got blistering hot
even with the ceramic- I have used exhaust wrap on heavy equipment for over
15 years- these vehicles have semi-exposed engines and exhaust systems that
get wet every time it rains- I have not noticed any degradation in any
exhaust system as a result of the wrap. On my aircraft engine system, I over
wrapped the pipes with self sealing silicone tape in lieu of the silicone
spray that they sell for the same purpose- do not have very much run time on
the system yet, but it all seems to be holding up well
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Sent: Tuesday, October 09, 2007 8:22 AM
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Subject: REFLECTOR: Thermal exhaust Wrap
Ceramic coating is the long term way to go,( you can also coat the
inside) The wrap will work but has two drawbacks:
1) It will greatly curtail the life of your exhaust system
2) you need to play with it every so often as it will start falling
apart in spots
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