REFLECTOR: STICK & RUDDER

Tue Mar 27 09:27:44 CDT 2007

I have been taught over the years that maneuvering speed is the maximum
speed at which you can make full and abrupt movement with control
surfaces and not cause structural damage.  

-----Original Message-----
From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] On
Behalf Of Scott Derrick
Sent: Tuesday, March 27, 2007 8:08 AM
To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: STICK & RUDDER

Laurance,

    I wasn't questioning that there is a Va speed for the Velocity.  

    You said "You should never use full rudder unless you are at or
below maneuvering speed.  If you are faster you are exceeding allowable
structural loads."   

    I think your wrong about rudder deflection speed.   Show us where a
limit on rudder usage is stated...

Scott

Laurence Coen wrote: 
Yes really!!!  Va (maneuvering speed) is a structural limit every as
much as Vne.  All airplanes have a maneuvering speed including the
Velocity and it should be in your pilot manual.

Larry Coen
N136LC
	----- Original Message ----- 
	From: Scott Derrick <mailto:scott at tnstaafl.net>  
	To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
<mailto:reflector at tvbf.org>  
	Sent: Monday, March 26, 2007 9:27 AM
	Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: STICK & RUDDER

	Really???  I've never heard that before.  I rarely use rudder
except in the pattern , decent, and playing tag with the mesa's.  I've
never really paid attention to how much rudder I use but to increase my
descent rate I usually use a lot. 

	I haven't seen this restriction in the Pilot Manual?

	Scott

	Laurence Coen wrote: 
	Tom,

	You should never use full rudder unless you are at or below
maneuvering speed.  If you are faster you are exceeding allowable
structural loads.

	Larry Coen
	N136LC
		----- Original Message ----- 
		From: Tom Martino <mailto:tmartino at troubleshooter.com>  
		To: Velocity List <mailto:reflector at tvbf.org>  
		Sent: Sunday, March 25, 2007 4:49 PM
		Subject: REFLECTOR: STICK & RUDDER

		At first I thought it was just the weather, or maybe an
uneven fuel load ... but I can no longer deny it.  My plane still yaws a
bit to the left (which means I have to touch the right rudder to make it
fly perfectly straight).  So I have the following questions and would
like those with more experience to answer:
		1.     The ball is only a tiny bit out of center and I
can get speeds of 200 KTAS or more ... so should I leave the damn thing
alone? 
		2.     The plane is almost perfect ... so should I make
it fly perfectly? 
		I should also make these observations:
		--I already shimmed the wings with washers several hours
ago - which helped a lot ... but there is still a slight yaw,
		--I also shimmed the right rudder out a bit (right after
I did the wing) ... it seemed near perfect ... but still a tiny yaw.
		--When I am at higher speeds (170+ TKAS) and make a hard
right turn with full right rudder ... the right rudder will flutter a
bit.
		--When turning left at the same speed ... no flutter at
all.  Is this because I shimmed the right rudder out a bit to begin
with?
		ANY AND ALL COMMENTS APPRECIATED.
		I have taken a lot of time to make this an exceptional
bird ... am I going too far?  
		Tom Martino

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