REFLECTOR: Seat rail installation.
Andrew Ellzey
ajlz72756 at yahoo.com
Tue Mar 20 23:09:34 CDT 2007
Thanks everyone for your advice. I just needed to know that I wasn't seeing something different. I like my seat straighter than it is now and I will experiment more with different heights and angles when I am ready to make the final install. I did add 1 1/2 inches between the rails and the rear of the seat base and liked how that looked and felt. I will be able to tell more when I install some foam. Then I can sit in my plane and make engine noises since I'm not ready for engine start.
Andy
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From: Jorge Bujanda
To: 'Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list'
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 9:50 PM
Subject: Re: REFLECTOR: Seat rail installation.
Andy,
You can see pictures of the assembly and installation of my seats at:
http://members.dslextreme.com/users/jbujanda/Construction.html#Fuselage (Seats)
The standard angle between the bottom seat and the back of the seat felt too big for my comfort; not because of the stick been too far forward but because I feel more comfortable with my back on the straight side. To reduce the angle between the two I reversed the aluminum tops on the seat hinges and these turned out to be pretty much how I wanted them so; no adjustments were necessary. If anything, it may be too vertical after upholstering and grinding the hinge tops will take care of it. However, I placed the cushions of an old car seat on the pan and back and it feels right for me.
I moved the seat against the rails to determine the height I wanted for the seat pans. I then moved the whole seat assembly (seat and rails) fore-aft on the cabin floor to match my distance to the pedals. This gave the location for the floor hard points (I ignored the location of the seat hard points in the manual).
The reason I did not modify the rails is because the angle between the seat bottom and the floor is ergonomic and helps you bend your knees. Decreasing this angle will force you to straighten your legs and this will be tiring, especially on long flights. You can test this by feeling your legs when you sit on the floor using one cushion and then using three or four cushions; better bent than straight.
My 2 cents
Regards,
Jorge Bujanda
Velocity XL FG
Palmdale, CA
Website: http://members.dslextreme.com/users/jbujanda/
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From: reflector-bounces at tvbf.org [mailto:reflector-bounces at tvbf.org] On Behalf Of Andrew Ellzey
Sent: Tuesday, March 20, 2007 12:48 PM
To: Velocity Aircraft Owners and Builders list
Subject: REFLECTOR: Seat rail installation.
I put one of my seat assemblies together last night and made the backrest angle reclined about 10 degrees from the seat base. I then took this assy and placed it on top of one of my front seat track rails. This made the seat assembly reclined to far aft to be comfortable for a front seat. This is the same angle that is used for the rear rails also but is probably needed for head clearance for the back seat passengers. It looks like an additional 1 inch will need to be added to the rear of the seat rail assy to bring the front seat to a proper level. I am interested in what others have done or added to level the front seats or am I seeing something wrong?
Andy Ellzey
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